Baseball Toaster: The Griddle : Lilly and Gibbons scuffle in Toronto

Rank	Team	W	L	PCT	Division
1	Chicago Cubs	53	36	.596	C1
2	Philadelphia	48	42	.533	E1
3T	Arizona	44	45	.494	W1
3T	Los Angeles Dodgers	44	45	.494	W1
5	St. Louis	50	40	.556	C2
6	Milwaukee	49	40	.551	C3
7	Florida	46	43	.517	E2
8	New York Mets	45	44	.506	E3
9	Cincinnati	43	47	.478	C4
10	Atlanta	42	48	.467	E4
11	Pittsburgh	41	47	.466	C5
12	Houston	41	49	.456	C6
13	San Francisco	39	50	.438	W3
14	Colorado	38	52	.422	W4
15	San Diego	35	55	.389	W5
16	Washington	34	56	.378	E5

American League

Rank	Team	W	L	PCT	Division
1	Tampa Bay	55	33	.625	E1
2	Los Angeles Angels	54	35	.607	W1
3	Chicago White Sox	51	37	.58	C1
4	Boston	53	39	.576	E2
5	Minnesota	50	39	.562	C2
6	Oakland	48	41	.539	W2
7	New York Yankees	47	42	.528	E3
8	Texas	46	44	.511	W3
9	Baltimore	44	43	.506	E4
10	Detroit	44	44	.5	C3
11	Toronto	42	47	.472	E5
12	Kansas City	40	50	.444	C4
13	Cleveland	37	51	.42	C5
14	Seattle	35	54	.393	W4

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Comments

2006-08-21 18:43:02

1. dianagramr

Meanwhile .... the Jays went from up 8-0 to down 11-8 to now down 11-10.

Think Gibbons and Ozzie Guillen have some stories to tell when their managing days are over?

2006-08-21 18:47:40

2. das411

This is the same manager that wanted to beat up Hillenbrand too right?

2006-08-21 18:51:24

3. Bob Timmermann

Gibbons is an equal opportunity angry manager.

2006-08-21 19:22:02

4. bhsportsguy

Oakland wins 12-10, but Gibbons got the TKO.

2006-08-21 19:38:03

5. dzzrtRatt

What's Lilly's problem? You blow 7 runs of an 8 run lead by the third inning, you should expect your manager to be unfriendly. Mike Scioscia's probably pretty mad at Lilly, too.

2006-08-21 19:38:53

6. Greg Brock

The Blue Jays clubhouse is not dysfunctional. At all. Not one bit.

2006-08-21 19:51:57

7. grandcosmo

If like the article says a handful of photgraphers witnessed the incident there should be some good pictures coming out of this.

2006-08-21 20:21:27

8. Bob Timmermann

See updated links above. Especially the first one.

2006-08-21 20:26:46

9. Travis

Lilly's a free agent after the season, right?

2006-08-21 20:28:42

10. Adam B

I suspect ownership will be pressuring J.P. to change the way things are going around Toronto. Certainly the trainwreck that that clubhouse is turning into can't be good for selling tickets.. Maybe allowing betting on Gibbons's fights will. :)

2006-08-21 20:35:10

11. Terry A

If Tim Johnson were around, this stuff wouldn't be happening.

Nobody wants to tangle with a war vet.

2006-08-21 20:35:44

12. Greg S

I like how they say he has a bloody nose but they don't know if punches were thrown. Maybe Gibbons just went up and down the elevator too quickly.

2006-08-21 20:38:52

13. grandcosmo

Having photographers describe what happened kind of defeats their purpose.

2006-08-21 20:39:58

14. Bob Timmermann

They probably aren't allowed to take pictures in that area.

2006-08-21 21:10:06

15. grandcosmo

14. Daniel Ellsberg wasn't allowed to steal the Pentagon Papers from RAND but he did it any way. I bet Lewis Hine would have taken the pictures.

2006-08-21 21:17:16

16. das411

My guess for what provoked this:

Lilly went back into the hallway and wrote "THIS IS A SINKING SHIP" on the wall!

2006-08-21 21:22:20

17. Bob Timmermann

Daniel Ellsberg probably wouldn't have encountered guys the size of Troy Glaus threatening to beat him up if he took pictures.

2006-08-21 22:15:28

18. Eric Enders

"Photo of Gibbons taking out Lilly."

Alas, that turned out not to be the kind of photo I expected to see when I clicked on the link.

2006-08-21 22:16:14

19. Suffering Bruin

17 Yeah, but what's scarier? Glaus might swear, curse and fight like most baseball players but the Pentagon guys wear shades, are all built like razor blades with features just as sharp and their heartrates barely break 50 when they dip the hand in the jacket to pull out Lord knows what to finish the job.

Of course, I think Ellsberg stole the papers from RAND, right? So... never mind.

2006-08-21 22:59:07

20. Steve

Maybe they'll trade Lilly to the Giants so he can change the balance of power in the National League West

2006-08-21 23:15:05

21. Greg Brock

Steve wins.

2006-08-21 23:25:30

22. Steve

When mediocrities get traded to the Giants, we all win.

2006-08-22 10:31:11

23. misterjohnny

Maybe he did a Zidane head butt to the nose. No punches, right?