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NBA Finals Chat: Game 1 at 6 pm PT
2008-06-05 14:00
by Bob Timmermann

Assuming that not EVERYONE on Baseball Toaster is a Lakers fan (although Dodger Thoughts people would want you to believe that), I'm putting up a thread about the NBA Finals.

Question of the day: Why does the NHL end its season with the Stanley Cup Final and the NBA ends with the Finals?



Comments (78)
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2008-06-05 14:18:54
1.   Sam DC
So what, we have a game today, a game on Father's Day, two over Fourth of July week, and the thing closes out sometime between Bastille Day and the Moon Landing?

Good planning!

2008-06-05 14:29:25
2.   Josh Wilker
Last time these two met in the finals I had just begun spending a summer on the west coast, in Isla Vista, CA, surrounded by Lakers fans. After the stinging loss, I spent a lot of the summer playing pickup hoops over by the UCSB campus with my Celtics "Go Right At 'Em" T-Shirt. I was laughed at. Laughed at I tell you! This one's for the derisive laughter and the baby hook and for Red. Cue the bagpipes! Cue John Cougar Mellancamp's "Small Town"! Cue the gravelly death-rattle of Johnny Most calling 'em as he sees 'em (i.e., as a battle between good and evil). Evil's got Kobe, but to quote that awful slickhaired Tony Robbins acolyte Pat Riley, "Rebounds = Rings."
2008-06-05 15:40:50
3.   Eric Stephen
On SportsCenter, it was Bob Ryan v. Bill Plaschke in breaking down the series. Ryan picked the Celtics in 6; Plaschke picked the Lakers in 5.

I don't like agreeing with Plaschke. So I'll change my pick to LA in 6.

2008-06-05 16:02:37
4.   Eric Stephen
To get fired up for tonight, I have watched the championship videos for the 1980, 1982, 1985 & 1987 seasons.
2008-06-05 16:15:29
5.   D4P
Losing years are even more flammable.
2008-06-05 16:18:04
6.   Eric Stephen
I don't own those on DVD. However, I did watch parts of Game 7 of the 1984 Finals to restock my hate inventory.
2008-06-05 16:33:34
7.   Josh Wilker
6 : Much of the pivotal game 4 of '84 is on youtube (Color commentator Tommy Heinsohn after the McHale clothesline of Rambis: "That's just part of the game."). I know what you mean about restocking the hate inventory: I consider Kareem possibly the greatest center who ever played, and in some ways by now probably the most underrated (no one ever ranks him ahead of Russell, who he was of course far superior to as an offensive force, or Wilt, who wasn't the focused comepetitor or all-around player he was) and I love his game, especially his incredible passing. But watching that game I remembered how much I used to loathe that big elbow-swinging crybaby.
2008-06-05 16:40:14
8.   Xeifrank
The NBA Finals are scripted. Here is how the (leaked) script will play out. vr, Xei

Game 1: Boston
Game 2: Los Angeles
Game 3: Los Angeles
Game 4: Boston
Game 5: Los Angeles
Game 6: Boston
Game 7: Tied up with 4-5 minutes left and the refs let the players decide.

In a nutshell the whole thing is scripted except for the last 4 or 5 minutes of the last game.

vr, Xeifrank

2008-06-05 16:59:12
9.   Josh Wilker
A "Beat L.A." chant just started up in the 4th inning at Fenway...
2008-06-05 16:59:13
10.   Eric Stephen
Similarly, I used to hate Larry Bird with a passion, but over the last few years I have come to appreciate his greatness.

I actually don't hate much about these Celtics, but their "Beat LA" chant when receiving the Eastern Conference trophy really stirred me up.

2008-06-05 17:00:02
11.   Eric Stephen
The makeup lady was applying touchup to Jamal Mashburn as the camera started showing him.
2008-06-05 17:05:41
12.   Josh Wilker
10 : The most rousing "Beat L.A." moment was in '82, when Celtics fans sent the Sixers into battle with the chant in the waning moments of a game 7 conference finals loss to Dr. J and crew.

I know this isn't a Red Sox thread by any means, but I feel compelled to pass on the info that Manny and Youk just had to be separated in the dugout (and this after a bench-clearing brawl with the Rays earlier in the game).

2008-06-05 17:08:03
13.   Eric Stephen
That was the origin of "Beat LA" right? I actually thought that was incredibly cool. Not at the time, mind you (I was 6 and didn't even know about it), but still.
2008-06-05 17:10:13
14.   Eric Stephen
SportsCenter is about to show the top 10 moments in Lakers-Celtics Finals history.

Also a preview of the commercial with Magic & Larry, to debut at halftime.

2008-06-05 17:11:16
15.   Josh Wilker
13 : That's the first time I recall hearing it. Not sure if it was the first time.
2008-06-05 17:15:45
16.   PDH5204
Maybe the Lakers should sign J. Gomes? He can take out the Celtics while he serves his MLB suspension.
2008-06-05 17:16:09
17.   Eric Stephen
I wonder if Bill Simmons, reportedly in attendance this evening, will be wearing the white shirts handed out in Boston tonight, especially given his hatred of them.
2008-06-05 17:39:00
18.   D4P
This will be the first final I've watched since the Lakers beat the Nets in 2002.
2008-06-05 17:50:49
19.   Eric Stephen
I would like to thank Time Warner for having ABC HD crap out at the WORST POSSIBLE TIME. As you might have guessed, every other channel I have works just fine.
2008-06-05 18:03:54
20.   D4P
The announcer appears to have a bandaid on a blemish on his forehead.


2008-06-05 18:04:43
21.   Icaros
Is Mike Breen a Fight Club member?
2008-06-05 18:05:33
22.   Icaros

His left eye is squinty. Maybe I will call him Lisa.

2008-06-05 18:08:21
23.   D4P
CBS Gamecenter is telling me that Farmar is starting over Odom. Is that correct?
2008-06-05 18:10:00
24.   Icaros


2008-06-05 18:10:29
25.   D4P
2008-06-05 18:11:54
26.   Eric Stephen
That giant O'Brien trophy as part of the center court logo is pretty weak.
2008-06-05 18:13:13
27.   D4P
The "" isn't much better.
2008-06-05 18:13:18
28.   Icaros
I'd prefer the Radmanovic open three to the Kobe turnaround with a guy hanging all over him.
2008-06-05 18:17:06
29.   D4P
Laker rebounding not very good thus far.
2008-06-05 18:19:37
30.   D4P
Yuck. Kobe forcing up stupid shots.
2008-06-05 18:35:32
31.   D4P
2008-06-05 18:36:00
32.   trainwreck
The Celtics run quieted the masses.
2008-06-05 18:39:59
33.   D4P
Odom and Gasol combine for zero rebounds in the first quarter.
2008-06-05 18:40:03
34.   Icaros
It was quiet before the run.
2008-06-05 18:43:58
35.   D4P
Missed shots seem to be bouncing right to Celtic players.
2008-06-05 18:48:48
36.   D4P
Not looking good. Lakers are getting no easy shots.
2008-06-05 18:55:08
37.   D4P
Turiaf vs. Garnett is not a good officiating matchup for the Lakers.
2008-06-05 18:56:50
38.   Icaros
I must break up the D4P grand slam of negativity.

Glad they're only down one. It's a long series.

2008-06-05 19:00:10
39.   Bob Hendley
Yeah, keeping it close. Our bench was suppossed to be one of our advantages, so let's see how that works out.
2008-06-05 19:02:44
40.   Bob Timmermann
So is Josh Wilker the only Celtics fan who has chimed in here?
2008-06-05 19:03:09
41.   elandcohen
the officiating has been as good as usual 2nite. GARBAGE
2008-06-05 19:09:09
42.   Bluebleeder87
judging from this game the Lakers look pretty good to win at least one in Boston.
2008-06-05 19:12:43
43.   Bluebleeder87
I feel bad for Eric man...
2008-06-05 19:19:03
44.   Josh Wilker
40 : I'm an army of one. Not too happy with the sluggish effort thus far.
2008-06-05 19:19:10
45.   Bob Timmermann
Do games in the NBA Finals have extra long halftime shows that feature Up With People?
2008-06-05 19:24:06
46.   Bob Hendley
42 - The first one is usually the easiest to steal. Lakers with younger legs and a better bench and the Celtics a little deflated after all the build up to find that it is just a basketball game, and a tough one at that.
2008-06-05 19:40:39
47.   Brendan
Question of the day: Why does the NHL end its season with the Stanley Cup Final and the NBA ends with the Finals?

Because with the NHL it could be the last one ever?

2008-06-05 19:52:05
48.   nick
this has a good chance of simply ruining the Finals--very sad....
2008-06-05 19:52:58
49.   Bob Timmermann
Or even the Final!
2008-06-05 20:01:12
50.   Bob Timmermann
I'm glad to know that some coaches get rated on timeout taking abilities.

Or at least Jeff Van Gundy does.

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2008-06-05 20:03:51
51.   Johnny Nucleo
Question of the day: Why does the NHL end its season with the Stanley Cup Final and the NBA ends with the Finals?

Because just for once us Canucks decided to conserve on extraneous letters. You know, for colour. And honour.

2008-06-05 20:04:11
52.   Johnny Nucleo
In Boston news, my friend Dustin found TWO four-leaf clovers today. So my cheering efforts will be devoted to the smilin' eyes of those talented micks Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce.
2008-06-05 20:07:55
53.   Bob Timmermann
They've hoisted Lord Stanley's Cup in Edmonton more recently than the Lawrence O'Brien Trophy has been hoisted in Boston hasn't it?
2008-06-05 20:09:43
54.   Bob Timmermann
Ahh, I was wondering when we would get a Willis Reed allusion.
2008-06-05 20:27:37
55.   sporky
Doc Rivers has Josh Foggian undereye circles.
2008-06-05 20:31:12
56.   Bob Timmermann
That just means they both have thin skin under their eyes. And they probably get allergies too. Both of these lead to dark circles on your eyes.
2008-06-05 20:33:50
57.   Indiana Jon
40 Real Celtics fans? Do longtime Larry Bird fans that are for the Celtics in this series count?
2008-06-05 20:35:29
58.   Bob Timmermann
You have to swear allegiance to the Leprechaun and worship Red Auerbach as the greatest pro basketball coach ever to be a Celtics fan.
2008-06-05 20:37:01
59.   Indiana Jon
58 I'll just stick to this series.
2008-06-05 20:37:12
60.   fanerman
Things are not looking too good right now. I will chalk it up to the team being young. There's still time.
2008-06-05 20:38:31
61.   fanerman
60 (for the Lakers). I'm used to posting on Dodger Thoughts.
2008-06-05 20:38:37
62.   Indiana Jon
60 Please repost that at Dodger Thoughts. It fits well there.
2008-06-05 20:39:07
63.   sporky
56 Hemorrhoid cream.
2008-06-05 20:39:13
64.   Indiana Jon
61 Beat me to it.
2008-06-05 20:40:41
65.   Bob Timmermann
I am watching the game on digital cable that has a DVR attached to it and I'm about 5 seconds behind the actual game action. So my neighbors cheer or moan before whatever actually happens.

It's disturbing.

2008-06-05 20:46:20
66.   fanerman
That's a dagger.
2008-06-05 20:48:48
67.   SoSG Orel
Who's the more frustrating team to watch tonight, the Lakers or Dodgers?
2008-06-05 20:48:55
68.   Bob Hendley
63 - Oh, its an affected look, then.
2008-06-05 20:49:17
69.   Indiana Jon
67 You must have missed Hu and Sweeney!
2008-06-05 20:52:39
70.   fanerman
Why is "Beat L.A." the official chant of every single team not from L.A. whenever they play a team from L.A.?
2008-06-05 20:53:34
71.   SoSG Orel
69 You're right, I did.
2008-06-05 20:57:58
72.   Josh Wilker
This cigar is making me dizzy.
2008-06-05 21:08:52
73.   sporky
72 May the ash fall in your lap.
2008-06-05 21:10:08
74.   fanerman
Game 1 of Xeifrank's 7 game prediction has come true.
2008-06-05 21:20:01
75.   Eric Stephen
I feel empty after watching this game. Great 2nd half by the Celtics, especially Paul Pierce. That the Lakers failed to capitalize on a Celtics lineup that at times featured Cassell, Brown, and Allen is disheartening to say the least.

I hope the Lakers are up near the 5 minute mark of Game 7, so they can capitalize on Xeifrank's projection.

Also, thanks to Time Warner, I watched the first 3 quarters of the game in non-HD. When the HD was finally working in the 4th quarter, it was like switching from black & white to color. Just ridiculous. What did we do before HD? We were savages!!!

2008-06-05 21:22:37
76.   Xeifrank
74. I would love to say it was my prediction, but it came from the leak at NBA headquarters. Stearn has already scripted out the first 6 games and first 40+ minutes of game 7. I was just passing the info along. I already knew the outcome of tonight's game, so I just watched for amusement. vr, Xei
2008-06-05 21:54:01
77.   Eric Stephen
Lakers are 5-8 in NBA Finals series after they've lost Game 1. However, they are 8-5 in Games 2 following a loss.
2008-06-05 22:04:46
78.   capdodger
70 Chalk it up to lack of talent. Anyone with any creativity in their writing is already in LA trying to hawk a screenplay.

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