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NBA Finals Chat: Game 2 at 6 pm PT
2008-06-08 15:00
by Bob Timmermann

Boston leads Los Angeles 1-0.

Tonight's question to ponder:

I grew up near a street called Celtic Street. And since we didn't know any better and assumed that "Celtic" was always pronounced with an "S" sound at the beginning, we pronounced it like the basketball team. But should we have pronounced the street name with a harc C at the beginning?

I should be at Dodger Stadium for this game where the crowd will no doubt be cheering or booing at inappropriate times for a baseball game. 

Comments (70)
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2008-06-08 15:26:34
1.   Bob Hendley
Yes, you young lads were obviously confusing the name with a prehistoric stone or metal implement shaped like a chisel or ax head.
2008-06-08 15:27:13
2.   Bob Hendley
I mean, no.
2008-06-08 15:31:47
3.   Bob Hendley
I mean, you kids can do whatever you want.
2008-06-08 15:32:17
4.   Bob Timmermann
The adults called used the same pronunciation.
2008-06-08 15:36:51
5.   Bob Hendley
Would it help to know the town where the street is located?
2008-06-08 15:38:11
6.   Bob Timmermann
It's linked above.
2008-06-08 15:52:17
7.   Bluebleeder87
the 3 point shot is different in college than in the pros, I don't get that, I mean it should be like in baseball were the mound is the same, you know what I mean?
2008-06-08 15:57:42
8.   Bob Hendley
The neighborhood doesn't offer much in the way of help. Here in the DF streets in neighborhoods generally follow some sort of subject. I live in an area that is a grid of streets named after Mexican states and Mexican state capitals. There is a neighborhood nearby that uses the names of US states and another with names of the world's major rivers. In your old neighborhood I see little rhythm or reason for street names. Kinda neat living by Gothic St., however, no?. Its a cross street and not a parallel, but whatever, I will say that you kids were wrong.
2008-06-08 15:59:16
9.   Bob Timmermann
It was Gothic Avenue.

That one I know. I lived on it! And I co-own a house on that street.

2008-06-08 16:00:23
10.   Bob Hendley
7 - And little leaguers should not be coddled either!
2008-06-08 16:00:25
11.   Johnny Nucleo
Whenever I pronounce the name "Celtics" with a hard C, the locals give me the Eye of Death.
2008-06-08 16:03:48
12.   LogikReader
One of life's great mysteries: Why the "Celtics" in "Boston Celtics" is pronounced with a soft "c"?
2008-06-08 16:09:56
13.   Bob Timmermann
"Celtics" is one of the oldest names for a pro basketball team. I would blame the coal miners of Western Pennsylvania for pronouncing it wrong.
2008-06-08 16:11:26
14.   Bob Timmermann
I did not know that the Scottish soccer team also using uses the soft C pronunciation.

2008-06-08 16:20:53
15.   ToyCannon
Stick to baseball. Why should some kid playing community college have to make a professional 3 pointer?
College baseball players use metal bats, do the professionals?
2008-06-08 16:35:19
16.   Bluebleeder87

very very true.

2008-06-08 16:39:56
17.   Johnny Nucleo
14 I am shocked. Shocked!!!

We hard-C pronouncers are a dying breed.

2008-06-08 17:01:45
18.   Bob Hendley
14 Ha, that's right. Mmmh, wonder what it all means.
2008-06-08 18:12:29
19.   NorCal-Dodger
9 Use to live on Gothic Ave also! Between Kalisher and Rinaldi. We were alomost neighbors!
2008-06-08 18:13:32
20.   trainwreck
Paul Pierce sure does not look very injured.
2008-06-08 18:44:40
21.   fanerman
The Lakers are sloppy. Maybe because none of Kobe, Odom, and Gasol are not in the game
2008-06-08 18:45:12
22.   fanerman
21 Too many negatives in that sentence.
2008-06-08 18:46:13
23.   fanerman
Ugh I hate Paul Pierce's demeanor.
2008-06-08 18:46:31
24.   fanerman
And no, he does not look very injured.
2008-06-08 18:47:35
25.   trainwreck
Now I can really hate the Celtics.
2008-06-08 18:50:05
26.   fanerman
Mark Jackson: "Paul Pierce is as good offensively as Larry Bird."
2008-06-08 18:54:20
27.   trainwreck
Chuck Norris is scared of Paul Pierce.
2008-06-08 18:56:05
28.   ucladodger
When Leon Powe has 9 times as many free throw attempts as the lakers, something isnt right. The officiating is pretty terrible tonight.
2008-06-08 18:57:00
29.   fanerman
Paul Pierce ORtg (career/high): 108/115
Larry Bird ORtg (career/high): 115/121
2008-06-08 19:01:34
30.   TheBigGrabowski
The fouls in this game are out of control.
2008-06-08 19:02:17
31.   trainwreck
Plus I have had to see way too many Patriots and Red Sox in this series.
2008-06-08 19:10:13
32.   trainwreck
Earth to Phil Jackson:

Radmanovic can't guard Pierce.

Or do anything.

2008-06-08 19:10:19
33.   fanerman
blah blah blah officiating blah blah blah

I honestly can't believe that Jeff Van Gundy let Mark Jackson say that Paul Pierce is as good as Larry Bird was on offense. Larry Bird is one of the 5 greatest players of all time, and it wasn't because of his defense.

2008-06-08 19:14:51
34.   fanerman
Okay I REALLY hate the Celtics.
2008-06-08 19:15:58
35.   TheBigGrabowski
33 you don't think the officiating this game has been bad?
2008-06-08 19:18:26
36.   fanerman
35 I do. It's been horrible. Those blah's are more from a lack of having anything extra to add other than "it continues and I've said it over and over already". I see how it could be read the other way though.
2008-06-08 19:23:16
37.   TheBigGrabowski
36 ahh. makes more sense.
2008-06-08 19:28:13
38.   TheBigGrabowski
I miss the TNT broadcast crew. They make halftime at least watchable.
2008-06-08 19:29:22
39.   fanerman
38 I'm not even gonna bother trying to watch the halftime show. I also can't stand Mark Jackson. He completely cancels out Jeff Van Gundy's honest humor and astute observations.
2008-06-08 19:33:54
40.   TheBigGrabowski
I find Van Gundy pretty funny, but I don't know if it's just me being weird or something. But yeah, Marc Jackson is really horrible.

I think Marc Jackson and Van Gundy kind of hate each other, they have several arguments that become fairly uncomfortable. I don't know whether to laugh or feel awkward.

2008-06-08 19:35:16
41.   trainwreck
Jeff Van Gundy is hilarious as a commentator. He was made for it. We get to see his personality come out instead of seeing him on the sidelines looking dead.
2008-06-08 19:38:51
42.   TheBigGrabowski
He is hilarious, I feel like he has no filter on what he says, he just sees something and then just says it. Even if I don't agree, I'm always like, "that was funny Jeff, we should have a beer some time."

I wonder if his brother is the same way.

2008-06-08 19:39:00
43.   Lexinthedena
I'm glad I'm not alone about the refs....I usually hate when people cry about the officiating, but so far this game has been rediculous.
2008-06-08 19:51:48
44.   trainwreck
Kobe looks like he's given up on passing.

We are boned.

2008-06-08 19:54:51
45.   Xeifrank
Let's see if the Lakers can comeback against the refs. The refs have a solid team. The Lakers don't seem to have an answer for them.
vr, Xei
2008-06-08 20:00:22
46.   trainwreck
How does Vlad keep getting minutes?
2008-06-08 20:01:54
47.   fanerman
46 The alternative is Luke Walton or perhaps a rusty Ariza?
2008-06-08 20:03:49
48.   fanerman
This is painful to watch.
2008-06-08 20:03:52
49.   MC Safety
2008-06-08 20:03:54
50.   fanerman
And listen.
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2008-06-08 20:04:47
51.   trainwreck
I will take a rusty Ariza any day over Vlad. Ariza at least is a challenge for Pierce.
2008-06-08 20:06:12
52.   MC Safety
Defensive clinic!?!


2008-06-08 20:09:10
53.   fanerman
51 Me, too.

If we lose by 20, complaining about the refs is a pointless.

2008-06-08 20:15:37
54.   trainwreck
Way to play defense guys, run away from Powe and force Sasha to guard him.
2008-06-08 20:17:33
55.   trainwreck
Send Rambis out there to chop block Pierce.
2008-06-08 20:42:35
56.   Bob Timmermann
Hey people! Wake up! 4-point game with 1:04 left!
2008-06-08 20:42:46
57.   thinkblue88
oh man, lakers making it exciting!
2008-06-08 20:45:23
58.   thinkblue88
down 2 with 38.4 seconds left!
2008-06-08 20:45:27
59.   Bob Hendley
2008-06-08 20:50:58
60.   fanerman
At least they can take something from the game.
2008-06-08 20:51:54
61.   thinkblue88
2008-06-08 20:53:05
62.   Bob Timmermann
Move along people, nothing more to see here. Move along.
2008-06-08 21:02:15
63.   Yankees Brasil
You know the refs suck and when Leon Powe goes to the line 3 more times than Kobe.
2008-06-08 21:05:36
64.   trainwreck
I really liked Powe, because we went to high school around same time and comes from East Bay, but that was totally uncool.
2008-06-08 21:15:59
65.   underdog
Had to eat dinner first, but, yeah, wow, that was crazy. A loss is a loss, but it was nice to come away from that game not feeling humiliated and at least by making Celtic fans sweat a little. So many obnoxious moments in that game that it's not even worth rehashing, but on the other hand the Celtics did play some pretty great defense for much of the game. Having no fouls called on them didn't hurt that, either of course.

But I was about to turn the game off in disgust when the deficit was over 20 points, and something told me, nah, basketball is crazy, you never know...

2008-06-08 21:16:31
66.   underdog
And yeah, I used to like Leon Powe, too. (I thought the Celtics got a steal when they drafted him.) But those days are over!
2008-06-08 21:17:38
67.   underdog
And I agree with the above, I know Vlad-Rad was in late to shoot threes but his defense is so consistently atrocious I couldn't take it anymore. Ugh.
2008-06-08 21:19:58
68.   underdog
Finaly tally: Celtics 38 free throw attempts; Lakers 10.
2008-06-09 00:01:27
69.   KG16
67 - Vlad was in the right spot a couple times late, he had the assist to Sasha on the big three (off of a Kobe or Fisher steal) and then got the steal and dunk on the next possession. He's no Tony Kukoc, but not a bad guy to have around.

As a side note, insomnia is Dead to Me.

2008-06-09 11:11:57
70.   underdog
No doubt, Vlad contributed on offense, and that's why he gets as much playing time as he does. All true, but it doesn't change the fact that he plays atrocious defense and it was particularly egregious last night. But I won't point fingers in blame at him either.

Btw, never thought I'd look to Fox Sports to back me up on this, but:
"Free throw disparity crucial in Celtics' Game 2 win"

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