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ALDS Open Thread, Chicago vs Tampa Bay, 11:37 am PT
2008-10-02 10:45
by Bob Timmermann

Nothing screams postseason baseball more than seeing the blue, green yellow, and white of the Tampa Bay Rays running across the FieldTurf of Tropicana Field in front of a screaming crowd of 36,000 people or so, many of them banging cowbells or sounding a klaxon.

Actually, I don't think you can bring in a klaxon to Tropicana Field and besides, I have already cornered the market on klaxons on the Gulf Coast of Florida. It's a cutthroat business. Follow along online here.

Today's lineups:

Cabrera, ss
Wise, lf
Dye, rf
Thome, dh
Konerko, 1b
Griffey, cf
Ramirez, 2b
Pierzynski, c
Uribe, 3b
Vazquez, p

Iwamura, 2b
Upton, cf
Pena, 1b
Longoria, 3b
Crawford, lf
Floyd, dh
Navarro, c
Gross, rf
Bartlett, ss
Shields, p

Comments (97)
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2008-10-02 11:34:02
1.   underdog
I'm sorry I'm at work today and can't watch this one on TV. But then again, as much as I enjoy watching the Rays, I hate watching games played at that monstrosity known as Tropicana. Yikes.
2008-10-02 11:36:08
2.   trainwreck
Damn, they still can't sell out.
2008-10-02 11:36:36
3.   trainwreck
Unless those seats are blocked off like at Oakland Coliseum.
2008-10-02 11:38:20
4.   Bob Timmermann
The seats are blocked off per orders of MLB. They will only be sold if the Rays make it to the World Series. They have an obstructed view.
2008-10-02 11:39:51
5.   KG16
Is Jamie Shields a knuckle baller, or just a junk baller? because game day had his first two pitches topping out at about 50 mph.
2008-10-02 11:41:17
6.   trainwreck
Gameday is very wrong.
2008-10-02 11:41:37
7.   trainwreck
Throws low 90's heat with a great change.
2008-10-02 11:41:56
8.   KG16
ah, ok. that makes sense.

doesn't Halladay throw a palm ball, or something similar?

2008-10-02 11:42:18
9.   Cliff Corcoran
The Rays dont have any green on their uniforms any more. Just a a couple of shades of blue and yellow.
2008-10-02 11:43:02
10.   KG16
I really should be working so I can justify leaving the office at 530 to go watch the Dodger game.
2008-10-02 11:43:27
11.   Bob Timmermann
But blue and yellow make green don't they?
2008-10-02 11:43:54
12.   das411
9 , and the world is much worse off for it.

Bob, when will we petition MLB to make teams wear a different throwback uni during each playoff game they appear in? We're doing that before the Phils/Brewer series goes back to Milwaukee, right?

2008-10-02 11:49:12
13.   underdog
9 11 Without looking at them today you'd think they were dressed like macaws or something.
2008-10-02 11:49:45
14.   underdog
12 Can't wait for those old school Devil Ray uniforms for throwback day.
2008-10-02 11:59:04
15.   trainwreck
Evan Longoria may own Tampa in a few years.
2008-10-02 11:59:59
16.   Cliff Corcoran
Saw that Longoria homer coming. That kid is the real deal.
2008-10-02 12:00:38
17.   Cliff Corcoran
14 The black ones with the multi-colored lettering?
2008-10-02 12:05:27
18.   trainwreck
They can bring in all their players like McGriff, Canseco, Castilla, Vaughn, and Boggs.
2008-10-02 12:07:38
19.   underdog
Man, I forgot Canseco and Boggs played for them. They do go back further than it seems.

17 Indeed. They're already wonderfully dated, so they're cool.

Old Friend Dioner strikes!

2008-10-02 12:08:20
20.   Humma Kavula
True story: when Dioner Navarro was a Los Angeles Dodger and Russell Martin was but a glimmer in our eye as we squinted at the Suns, the LA Times published this gem:

"Dioner. As in De Owner of De Area behind De Plate."

2008-10-02 12:08:29
21.   underdog
I don't know if the ChiSox can stay alive in this series very long after having to run a marathon just to get this far.
2008-10-02 12:09:26
22.   underdog
Playoff batting averages after one day seem kind of pointless, but GameDay doesn't care.
2008-10-02 12:11:12
23.   Humma Kavula
What happened to Pena?
2008-10-02 12:12:55
24.   ToyCannon
I saw Shield pitch in the 2005 AFL on the same team as the Dodger kids. He looked like the best pitcher in the league but I couldn't get any scout to tell me he was any more then 5th pitcher in a bad rotation. I didn't know squat as a scout but as a fan he looked good to me. Then again they didn't much of Kemp at the time either.
2008-10-02 12:15:20
25.   Humma Kavula
Already sacficing? Okay.
2008-10-02 12:18:21
26.   trainwreck
Dwayne Wise?
2008-10-02 12:18:22
27.   Humma Kavula
Too bad for Shield.
2008-10-02 12:18:46
28.   trainwreck
2008-10-02 12:20:29
29.   underdog
21 On the other hand, what do I know?
2008-10-02 12:26:19
30.   Cliff Corcoran
I did not see the Wise homer coming.
2008-10-02 12:31:45
31.   trainwreck
"Baseball play" has to be Harold Reynold's favorite phrase.
2008-10-02 12:31:46
32.   Humma Kavula
Sounds like Wise almost got him. He's having a hell of a game already.

New ballgame.

2008-10-02 12:32:09
33.   Humma Kavula
Longoria! Holy cats, he is good at baseball.
2008-10-02 12:32:21
34.   trainwreck
Scratch what I said earlier. Longoria may own Tampa by tonight.
2008-10-02 12:33:13
35.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Wow, this has been a heck of a game so far. It figures this will be the best series of the first round -- the Brewers are gassed, the Cubs are the Cubs, and the Red Sox have mystical playoff mojo over the Angels. But you have to like the fast start.
2008-10-02 12:34:29
36.   Cliff Corcoran
I did not see the second Longoria homer coming.

Great replay by TBS to show Longoria starting his swing then pausing when he IDs the breaking ball, then hitting it out. He's scary good.

2008-10-02 12:35:38
37.   underdog
Uh, this Longoria kid, he's pretty darned good.
2008-10-02 12:35:45
38.   Linkmeister
Doesn't Longoria know how hard this game is?
2008-10-02 12:36:15
39.   Cliff Corcoran
35 The Brewers are gassed, but the White Sox aren't?
2008-10-02 12:37:29
40.   Linkmeister
Is the weather in Tampa Bay/St. Pete so bad that they have to have a permanently-closed dome? I read the Wikipedia entry which implied that the heat and thunderstorms caused the city to make that decision.

Any Floridians here?

2008-10-02 12:39:18
41.   Mark T.R. Donohue
39 No, the White Sox are energized. Obviously.
2008-10-02 12:40:32
42.   Cliff Corcoran
41 I think the Brewers weren't gassed yesterday, they were Hamelsed. They should even it tonight behind CC.
2008-10-02 12:40:37
43.   ToyCannon
The Rockies passed on Longoria for Reynolds. Can you imagine Longoria in Coors. Dodger fans are quite happy that they decided to go with pitching and a lousy one at that.
2008-10-02 12:41:21
44.   das411
40 , YES! Many a time have I entered the Trop during a refreshing afternoon thunderstorm and exited after the game to lovely 80 degree and humid evening. Their new parasail ballpark by the bay will be very much welcomed, and seems like it could well be the Turner Field that powers their Braves-like future dynasty.

Anyone know what the score is?

2008-10-02 12:43:18
45.   ToyCannon
4-3 Rays
2 Longoria solo home runs
Iwamura with a big no out triple knocked in the 2nd run and resulted in the 3rd run.
2008-10-02 12:44:20
46.   Mark T.R. Donohue
43 Rockies management still thinks that every offensive player they have is a star and the pitching staff is in constant need of reinforcement. The park effect revolution hasn't taken root here.
2008-10-02 12:44:32
47.   ToyCannon
Aybar at 1st? Por Que?
2008-10-02 12:44:45
48.   ToyCannon
2008-10-02 12:45:41
49.   Mark T.R. Donohue
47 Pena removed from the game in the third with unspecified injury.
2008-10-02 12:46:20
50.   Linkmeister
44 According to Wikipedia the cities have sunk over $200M into that thing, and now they're building a new one?

Jeepers, some construction and A&E firms are paying big kickbacks.

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2008-10-02 12:46:29
51.   trainwreck
He scratched his eyeball somehow at home last night. His vision apparently was a little too blurry, so Maddon said he aired on side of caution.
2008-10-02 12:47:32
52.   Bob Timmermann
2008-10-02 12:47:38
53.   Linkmeister
47 Tampa Bay newspaper live-blogger says Lee had blurry vision from a scratched eye suffered last night at home.
2008-10-02 12:49:34
54.   trainwreck
I wish it were Derek Lee. : )
2008-10-02 12:51:58
55.   Linkmeister
54 Whoops!
2008-10-02 12:56:59
56.   dzzrtRatt
Can I just stop here to say the TB Rays are the most encouraging baseball story of the decade? As the 'roid issues fades, the emergence of "teams built around draft picks, sprinkled with strategically selected veterans, managed by somebody really smart" as the new competitive trend is very, very good for the sport.

Being so optimistic, I'm going to assume the Rays' lousy attendance has more to do with the lousy stadium than the lack of fan enthusiasm for this lovely little team.

2008-10-02 13:04:47
57.   trainwreck
Fan support for teams in Florida is not good in general.
2008-10-02 13:05:20
58.   Bob Timmermann
Please tell me the crowd enjoyed Pierzynski getting caught stealing.

Really, truly, does anybody like the guy?

2008-10-02 13:08:10
59.   Mark T.R. Donohue
58 I don't think baseball fans in St. Pete are savvy enough to know that A.J. Pierzynski is a villain. After all, the famous dropped strike play occurred against Anaheim, not the Yankees.
2008-10-02 13:08:54
60.   Humma Kavula
58 If it makes you feel any better, I hate that guy with a passion that burns in my soul with the fire of a thousand suns.

When he was caught stealing -- standing up, I believe; it wasn't even close -- it filled me with a joy that I have not felt in ten months, since the birth of my spawn.

But I don't know if that will make you feel better.

2008-10-02 13:09:42
61.   Bob Timmermann
Pierzynski is hated in St. Pete because he asked for a bogus obstruction call in a game earlier this year.

And he got it. And the Rays lost.

Without that win, we'd be discussing Scott Baker and Denard Span now.

2008-10-02 13:10:01
62.   dzzrtRatt
Both Florida teams deal with problematic stadium situations.

If Miami had the equivalent of Dodger Stadium, or Oriole Park, I have to think the Marlins would do better given the team's seeming Phoenix-like ability to regenerate winning ballclubs so quickly.

Til this year there has been little reason to go to Rays games unless you're a Boston/NY transplant.

2008-10-02 13:10:03
63.   Bob Timmermann
Yes, yes it does.
2008-10-02 13:10:48
64.   das411
Found it! Behold, the future:

2008-10-02 13:10:58
65.   trainwreck
But thanks to AJ, the Giants pitching is not even more stacked.

Okay, that was more Brian Sabean.

2008-10-02 13:11:45
66.   Humma Kavula
Get on base, Aybar. I want to listen to Longoria's at-bat, but I also am hungry and need to get lunch!
2008-10-02 13:11:57
67.   Bob Timmermann
But what about the dank? They're not going to get rid of the dank are they?
2008-10-02 13:13:15
68.   Mark T.R. Donohue
67 Only if they change the name of the place to "Uncle Joe's Family Ballpark-bag."
2008-10-02 13:13:51
69.   Humma Kavula
Yay!! Here comes Longoria.

And following him:


2008-10-02 13:15:11
70.   Bob Timmermann
I would suggest that Javier Vazquez adopt a different pitching strategy here.
2008-10-02 13:15:25
71.   Humma Kavula
The radio announcers are saying that Evan Longoria has joined the immortal Gary Gaetti as the only two players to homer in their first two postseason at-bats.
2008-10-02 13:15:52
72.   arborial
they just showed a shot of the tank of rays that are swimming in the bleachers. I am jealous.
2008-10-02 13:15:58
73.   trainwreck
Awww, just a valuable single.
2008-10-02 13:15:58
74.   Humma Kavula
Just an RBI single? Hmmmph.
2008-10-02 13:16:36
75.   Humma Kavula
2008-10-02 13:17:32
76.   trainwreck
I like when ESPN was there and Erin Andrews went to go visit the rays. Sutcliffe was saying be careful they will stab you and all this.

Yes, they are going to allow kids to play with dangerous animals.

2008-10-02 13:19:54
77.   Mark T.R. Donohue
76 Some rays aren't dangerous. They're actually really affectionate. They will cuddle up to your arm like kittens.

I learned this at an aquarium in Ireland, of all places.

2008-10-02 13:20:19
78.   trainwreck
Did he just say the Rays win it 6-3?
2008-10-02 13:28:01
79.   Mark T.R. Donohue
Awesome, Christian Kane from "Angel" is in the cast of "Leverage." I'm totally watching that now.
2008-10-02 13:28:55
80.   Bob Timmermann
Javier Vazquez could be heading for his first ever postseason loss.

He's 1-0.
He was the fortunate winner of Game 3 of the 2004 ALCS when he relieved Mussina in the third.

Other pitchers for the Yankees that day were Paul Quantrill and Tom Gordon.

Ramiro Mendoza was the losing pitcher.

2008-10-02 13:29:43
81.   underdog
Rick Sutcliffe knows as much about Rays (the animal) as he does about Bisons (the player), it seems.
2008-10-02 13:37:27
82.   trainwreck
They have Hulk Hogan at the game? Who would want to be associated with him at the moment?

Who threw out the first pitch, by the way? Hopefully, not the Hulkster.

2008-10-02 13:44:13
83.   KG16
81 - sorry, been a while since I paid attention to anything Sutcliffe said, so I'm going to guess that your comment means "pretty much nothing beyond the name and being able to identify it in a picture"?
2008-10-02 13:52:48
84.   Bob Timmermann
I would have thought walking Alexei Ramirez would have been a hanging offense.
2008-10-02 13:59:47
85.   Humma Kavula
Me likey the current events. (Rubs hands.)
2008-10-02 14:02:16
86.   PDH5204
Lord Balfour
2008-10-02 14:05:10
87.   Bob Timmermann
Clayton Richard's string of Ks ends at 5, tying him for the ALDS record with Barry Zito and David Cone.

The record is 6 by Mike Hampton in the NLDS. Hod Eller, Moe Drabowsky, and Todd Worrell struck out six in a row in the World Series.

2008-10-02 14:05:51
88.   Raf
80 Actually, that was Kevin Brown who started gm 3 of the 2004 ALCS.
2008-10-02 14:07:57
89.   Bob Timmermann
It all became a blur after a while with that game.
2008-10-02 14:08:08
90.   Humma Kavula
3-for-3, 2 HR, 3 HR, BB, SB
2008-10-02 14:08:59
91.   Humma Kavula
That should say 3 RBI.
2008-10-02 14:09:26
92.   Bob Timmermann
Will Evan Longoria be the guest on the post-game show and receive a $20 gift certificate to the Cheesecake Factory?
2008-10-02 14:10:24
93.   Humma Kavula
92 I thought it was a fine Croton watch.
2008-10-02 14:18:56
94.   underdog
83 Basically, though specifically I was thinking of his sorta harping on guys like Matt Kemp without knowing what he's talking about, and then harping on worries about rays without knowing anything about them.
2008-10-02 14:19:46
95.   underdog
Only 3 more outs to go for the non-Satanic Rays. (3 outs, plus 18 more.)
2008-10-02 14:42:32
96.   underdog
Wow. I was just following that on GameDay, but quite an at bat by Konerko. 11 pitches, ends in a home run.
2008-10-02 17:55:23
97.   AdamMeckler
Big Trainwrek!

Check out this video on changing the name of Wrigley to something else. Don't let it happen!! (Video is pretty funny too)

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