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ALCS Game 1 Open Thread: Sentimental Favorites vs Big Meanies, 5:37 pm PT
2008-10-10 16:40
by Bob Timmermann

Despite Josh's eloquent plea earlier today, I believe my description is apt.

The AL East champion Rays will be taking on the defening World Series champs in the Boston Red Sox.

James Shields (14-8, 3.56 ERA in the regular season) faces Daisuke Matsuzaka (18-3, 2.90 ERA).

Shields got the win in Game 1 of the ALDS despite giving up a 3-run homer to DeWayne Wise of the White Sox. Matsuzaka got a no-decision in his only playoff start against the Angels, tossing 108 pitches in 5 innings against the slap happy Angels.

Stock up on supplies for this one. It should be a long night..

Starting lineups:

Big Meanies

1. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Kevin Youkilis, 3B
5. J.D. Drew, RF
6. Jason Bay, LF
7. Mark Kotsay, 1B
8. Jed Lowrie, SS
9. Jason Varitek, C
--Daisuke Matsuzaka, SP

Sentimental Favorites

1. Akinori Iwamura, 2B
2. B.J. Upton, CF
3. Carlos Pena, 1B
4. Evan Longoria, 3B
5. Carl Crawford, LF
6. Cliff Floyd, DH
7. Dioner Navarro, C
8. Gabe Gross, RF
9. Jason Bartlett, SS
-- James Shields, SP

Comments (119)
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2008-10-10 16:49:49
1.   ToyCannon
Okay, I'm hoping for a better result than the game I just gave up on.
2008-10-10 17:17:54
2.   Woden325
I am rooting for the sentimental favorites. Lets go exorcised Rays!
2008-10-10 17:21:24
3.   Woden325
2008-10-10 17:32:00
4.   trainwreck
It must suck to have the name Chip.
2008-10-10 17:33:49
5.   Bob Timmermann
Chip's real first name is Harry.
2008-10-10 17:34:44
6.   trainwreck
I get why he does not go with Harry, but why Chip?
2008-10-10 17:36:53
7.   Bob Timmermann
Presumably Chip was used to rhyme with his dad's nickname of Skip.

The cycle has been stopped as none of Chip Caray's kids are named Harry.

2008-10-10 17:38:25
8.   das411
Is anybody else now wondering why we have never seen that suit of Craig Sager's and Raymond the Ray in the same place at the same time?
2008-10-10 17:38:52
9.   Saburo
I miss Skip Caray...
2008-10-10 17:39:25
10.   trainwreck
The Rays have a mascot?
2008-10-10 17:43:49
11.   das411

Raymond has stolen more than a few of his moves from the Phanatic though :(

2008-10-10 17:44:16
12.   Bob Timmermann
The Red Sox could win today on a big hit by Bay?

And what would that prove?

Total moral superiority for Dan Shaughnessy.

2008-10-10 17:45:34
13.   bhsportsguy
I am not sure why I bother to listen to DodgerTalk, its like everyone who calls has managed more games than Joe Torre.
2008-10-10 17:47:07
14.   trainwreck
What in the hell is that thing?

When your mascot is an animal, do you really need to come up with some weird kooky thing?

2008-10-10 17:47:21
15.   bhsportsguy
There are now calls for Juan Pierre to replace Matt Kemp.

I know this is the griddle but I like it here better after losses.

2008-10-10 17:49:15
16.   Bob Timmermann
If Tim McCarver were calling this game, he would say Youkilis hit his double in the same spot Jason Bay did.
2008-10-10 17:49:49
17.   bhsportsguy
14 Did you see what Tracy P. wrote today, glass half full or what?
2008-10-10 17:49:54
18.   trainwreck
I am sure Juan would have made all the difference. {insert rolling eyes face}
2008-10-10 17:50:27
19.   trainwreck
I am hoping for 7 wins next year. 9 would be crazy.
2008-10-10 17:53:53
20.   Woden325
11 Oh, lord, he has a blog. And here he is hanging with Dinger:
2008-10-10 17:58:59
21.   das411
14 , if you had clicked on Raymond's bio, you would see:

"Raymond's animal-like appearance causes confusion among fans of all ages. His fuzzy face is similar to a walrus and his bulbous blue belly likens him to a mutant manatee. So what exactly is he?

In 2005 marine biologists and zoologists made a startling discovery; Raymond is actually a previously undiscovered species of dog known as "Canus Manta Whatthefluffalus" or in layman's terms, a Seadog. Seadogs have all the traits of normal dogs. They enjoy going for walks, playing with kids, and fetching. Unlike other dogs they are five to six feet tall, walk upright, are blue in color, and chase catfish. While other dogs live on land, Seadogs usually live in or around the water. Seadogs are well known for their fun-loving nature, passion for baseball, and general good looks. "

it sounds kind of like Raymond himself wrote that, but there you go.

Also BJ Upton = the Matt Kemp of the Rays?

2008-10-10 18:00:21
22.   Linkmeister
I used to work with a guy who was from Alabama and had the accent to prove it. After a rough night on the tiles Victor would come in to work and say he was tired, pronounced "tard."

I'm tard of the Red Sox.

2008-10-10 18:01:20
23.   trainwreck
Upton has way more patience than Kemp.
2008-10-10 18:04:34
24.   trainwreck
Upton is more refined than Kemp, though his drop in power this year was surprising.
2008-10-10 18:10:27
25.   Icaros
Oh, this Frank and his magic TV...
2008-10-10 18:12:12
26.   das411
Wow, that Raymond blog entry about Dinger is one of the funniest things I have read in a long time: "As far as the Red Sox and Indians, my money's on the Indian's. I'd love nothing more than for the Slide-man (that's Slider their mascot) to make a World Series appearance. Plus, Red Sox nation,I loath you. Congrats on your AL east crown and all. Only took 9 years. Hopefully that's all you'll be celebrating."
2008-10-10 18:16:22
27.   Woden325
26 He deserves to be mocked for confusing "loath" and "loathe."
2008-10-10 18:25:44
28.   das411
are we really the only people who survived the circular firing squad over at Dodger Thoughts?
2008-10-10 18:25:46
29.   Woden325
I'm envious of the Rays fans. This time last year I was watching the Rockies make their own improbable run, and it was just amazing.
2008-10-10 18:28:11
30.   trainwreck
They all went out to the liquor store or to a bar.
2008-10-10 18:40:34
31.   Linkmeister
I'm considering a change in hairstyles. If the Dodgers win I should style it in dreads; but if the Rays win I should go with the Mohawk.

What if they both win?

2008-10-10 18:42:45
32.   Woden325
31 Cornrows?
2008-10-10 18:44:35
33.   Linkmeister
32 Another possibility, but who on either team wears his hair like that? It's all about team spirit, see?

Another problem: there's a growing bald spot (the classic male pattern baldness) at the crown, so there might be a hole in that Mohawk, come to think of it.

2008-10-10 18:46:28
34.   Woden325
33 I was just splitting the difference. You could take a page out of Joe Torre's book and hide the male-pattern baldness under a ball-cap at all times.
2008-10-10 18:47:44
35.   trainwreck
Russell Westbrook flaming mohawk!

2008-10-10 18:49:08
36.   Woden325
This is verging on, as they say on DT, an interesting game.
2008-10-10 18:50:28
37.   Woden325
Ah, ha, ha, ha. Hulk Hogan and some other wrestling guy are being interviewed on WHNZ. Apparently Tropicana Field is louder than wrestlemania. So there.
2008-10-10 18:50:57
38.   Linkmeister
34 I do! I do! ;)
2008-10-10 19:00:29
39.   trainwreck
Wow, I just saw Sager's suit.
2008-10-10 19:00:44
40.   Bob Timmermann
Bay got that leadoff walk because of his moral superiority.

Kotsay got a double because he's got grit.

2008-10-10 19:01:07
41.   trainwreck
It is too flamboyant even for a pimp.
2008-10-10 19:03:26
42.   Woden325
2008-10-10 19:05:17
43.   Bob Timmermann
The Rays were behind in both of their home wins against the White Sox.
2008-10-10 19:06:50
44.   Bob Timmermann
Barlett keeps the Red Sox from picking up another cheap run.
2008-10-10 19:07:54
45.   das411
And on that note Bob, this Easterner is off for the night, go Rays!
2008-10-10 19:12:19
46.   Mattpat11
Chip Caray keeps bringing up Jacoby Ellsbury's three run single and screaming "first ever" like its something to celebrate.

Hey, Chip, have you stopped to consider the reasons the fastest man on earth (TM) only got a single on a slow developing play that cleared the bases?

2008-10-10 19:15:47
47.   Mattpat11
Buck Martinez just announced that you don't fluke your way to 18 wins.

My favorite player on earth, Carl Pavano, begs to disagree.

2008-10-10 19:17:43
48.   trainwreck
Are you trying to suggest that Kent Bottenfield is not good?
2008-10-10 19:19:39
49.   Bob Timmermann
Hmm the teams with the best four records when not homering all made the playoffs (since the Twins tied the White Sox I'm including them). So doesn't this mean that teams that are good just win anyway?
2008-10-10 19:29:16
50.   Mattpat11
Dane Cook and Cheech and Chong sounds like some kind of mental torture
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2008-10-10 19:30:01
51.   Woden325
This is now an annoyingly interesting game. Lets get some freaking hits, Rays!
2008-10-10 19:30:59
52.   Bob Timmermann
You can just say "no-hitter" if you'd like. It doesn't bother me.
2008-10-10 19:31:05
53.   LogikReader
This game gets more interesting by the pitch! Two great plays to close the 6th!
2008-10-10 19:34:20
54.   Bob Timmermann
I said it would be a long game. Perhaps I was mistaken.
2008-10-10 19:40:30
55.   Woden325
52 I'm still cautious after Jon blamed me for blowing the Dodger's no-hitter on July 7th.
2008-10-10 19:41:22
56.   fanerman
89 pitches and 3 innings left.
2008-10-10 19:41:54
57.   trainwreck
Jason "If the Dodgers sign him I may kill someone" Varitek.
2008-10-10 19:42:57
58.   Bob Timmermann
I think that if Matsuzaka and the Red Sox lead 1-0 in the 9th with a no-hitter intact, the pitcher for the Red Sox would be one Jonathan Papelbon.
2008-10-10 19:43:54
59.   trainwreck
Every time this song plays, the terrorists win.
2008-10-10 19:44:45
60.   fanerman
59 Which songs?
2008-10-10 19:45:32
61.   Woden325
59 huh?
2008-10-10 19:46:17
62.   trainwreck
God Bless America.

It ruined the 7th inning stretch.

2008-10-10 19:47:38
63.   LogikReader
Sox/Rays game no longer interesting
2008-10-10 19:47:55
64.   Bob Timmermann
So much for the suspense. Now it's just time to wonder who will win.
2008-10-10 19:49:26
65.   Woden325
62 Ah. I agree, I much prefer "America the Beautiful," if we must have a patriotic song during the stretch. Of course, that was written on Pikes Peak, which is practically in my back yard, so I may be biased.

I wonder, what to they play during Blue Jays games?

2008-10-10 19:49:43
66.   fanerman
Well that's that.
2008-10-10 19:50:09
67.   Woden325
C'mon Rays! You've got them on the ropes!
2008-10-10 19:50:10
68.   Bob Timmermann
I believe for a very brief period, MLB made the Jays play GBA, but Canadians insisted on something else.
2008-10-10 19:50:49
69.   LogikReader
Here's a big chance for the Rays!!


Random observation: the field surface here in St Pete reminds me of what Windows used to look like with 256 colors.

2008-10-10 19:50:59
70.   trainwreck
They play the Canadian Kilted Yaksmen theme.
2008-10-10 19:52:07
71.   fanerman
65 I agree. Amber waves of grain, purple mountain majesties. Much better than God Bless America.
2008-10-10 19:52:34
72.   Woden325
Typical Canadians, pretending that they're not really Americans.
2008-10-10 19:58:05
73.   Bob Timmermann
The Rays still have the team MVP up with a chance to get the tying run in!
2008-10-10 20:06:29
74.   larry slimfast
I prefer peanuts and cracker jack myself but that was a pretty good rendition of GBA. Some interesting melodic choices and his pitch was solid throughout... much better than that Navy chick in Phili.
2008-10-10 20:07:14
75.   Bob Timmermann
Does anyone else say "skinny run?"
2008-10-10 20:08:55
76.   Woden325
75 Huh?
2008-10-10 20:09:44
77.   Bluebleeder87
wow, looks like a well pitched game.
2008-10-10 20:09:45
78.   Bob Timmermann
Chip Caray has repeatedly said that the Red Sox lead by a "skinny run."
2008-10-10 20:10:34
79.   Woden325
Why do they insist on zeroing out statistics during the post season. I know that Ortiz is not a .000 hitter, for crying out loud. Nor does Howell have a 0.00 ERA.
2008-10-10 20:11:05
80.   Bob Timmermann
Because that's the way it's always been done.
2008-10-10 20:12:16
81.   Bluebleeder87
I keep thinking spanish conquistador when I see Youks
2008-10-10 20:12:38
82.   Woden325
78 Oh, ok. I'm too cheap for cable, so I haven't heard Chip.
I'm stuck with Gameday + WHNZ on Gameday Audio.
2008-10-10 20:13:42
83.   Bob Timmermann
A Spanish conquistador who is Jewish.
2008-10-10 20:14:24
84.   Woden325
80 I find it singularly unsatisfying. I don't follow these two teams regularly; how can I understand the comparative strengths of the players without the regular-season stats?
2008-10-10 20:14:25
85.   fanerman
79 80 I just wish they'd show both.
2008-10-10 20:15:49
86.   Bluebleeder87

those straight line drives are tough.

2008-10-10 20:15:57
87.   Bob Timmermann
Juan Pierre would have caught that.
2008-10-10 20:16:05
88.   Woden325
Crud, again.
2008-10-10 20:16:14
89.   trainwreck
And a Greek god.
2008-10-10 20:18:50
90.   Bob Timmermann
My prediction:
The winner of this game will win the World Series
2008-10-10 20:19:46
91.   Bluebleeder87
uh oh.
2008-10-10 20:20:02
92.   trainwreck
We all knew JD Drew's injury-proness would come into play. ; )
2008-10-10 20:20:34
93.   Woden325
2008-10-10 20:22:28
94.   Woden325
90 At this point, I sincerely hope you're wrong.
2008-10-10 20:22:33
95.   trainwreck
Pedroia certainly does not look like a kid when he is not wearing a hat or helmet.

He is going to have a forehead of doom.

2008-10-10 20:23:20
96.   fanerman
Where was Drew hit?
2008-10-10 20:23:42
97.   Bob Timmermann
Now look at Jacoby Ellsbury's hair. There's a haircut you can set a watch to!
2008-10-10 20:23:42
98.   trainwreck
I believe upper back shoulder area.
2008-10-10 20:24:09
99.   Woden325
96 Shoulder, I think.
2008-10-10 20:24:32
100.   Bluebleeder87
about 4 minutes ago I was watching the Manny home run & didn't realize he was thrown at by Myers, you know what man, Manny Ramirez is freakishly strong, that ball tide 'em up & he still roped it, just amazing man.
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2008-10-10 20:27:20
101.   Bluebleeder87
game of inches. If Crawford catches that the inning is over, now cause of the missed play the BoSox score & possible retaliation ensued.
2008-10-10 20:31:29
102.   Woden325
C'mon BJ!
2008-10-10 20:33:06
103.   Bob Timmermann
It's Sydney or the bush now for the Rays.
2008-10-10 20:35:55
104.   Woden325
Thank you, BJ, for heeding my cheer.
2008-10-10 20:42:58
105.   Bob Timmermann
It's the bush.
2008-10-10 20:43:43
106.   trainwreck
What a lame day of baseball.

Well, unless you like the Sox or Phillies.

2008-10-10 20:44:21
107.   Woden325
At the risk of repeating myself: crud.
2008-10-10 20:48:27
108.   Bob Timmermann
"The new look" Boston Red Sox description is going to bug me.

A lot.

2008-10-10 20:50:33
109.   trainwreck
David Price = situational lefty
2008-10-10 20:55:56
110.   Bob Timmermann
Since Dan Johnson isn't on the roster, I assume the Red Sox have this one in the bag.
2008-10-10 20:58:38
111.   Bob Timmermann
Weird that Joe Niekro had 20 scoreless innings in the postseason and had no decisions. He pitched TEN shutout innings against the Dodgers in 1981 and got a no-decision although the Astros won the game.
2008-10-10 21:03:56
112.   Bob Timmermann
"Experience has trumped exuberance"

How about "Boston outpitched Tampa Bay."

2008-10-10 21:04:48
113.   Woden325
"We'll get started later today at 8:07 or thereabouts."
Pity the poor east coasters, subject to the goofy demands of network programming.
2008-10-10 21:05:21
114.   trainwreck
Rays and Dodgers need to win just to destroy all these stupid cliches.
2008-10-10 21:05:44
115.   Bluebleeder87
Papelbon is kind of like K-Rod when he finishes of a game.
2008-10-10 21:06:47
116.   Woden325
Phooey. This was a supremely unsatisfying day of baseball.
2008-10-10 21:07:13
117.   Bob Timmermann
So I can call off my plan to dispatch teams of ninja to go after Tim McCarver and Chip Caray?

Because once they're on the move, they ain't coming back.

2008-10-10 21:08:51
118.   Woden325
117 They are destroying the cliche makers, not the cliches themselves, no?
2008-10-10 21:09:28
119.   trainwreck
No, no, let them do their jobs.

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