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ALCS Game 5 Open Thread: Batoidea vs Boston, 5:07 pm PT
2008-10-16 16:00
by Bob Timmermann

Tampa Bay needs to "scrape" out another win today like its last two wins at Fenway Park (9-1 an 13-4) to move on to its first ever World Series. If the Red Sox win, it's back to Tropicana Field on Saturday night.

But if Tampa Day does win today, there won't be another baseball game until the World Series starts on Wednesday. Cole Hamels says hello.

Daisuke Matsuzaka is entrusted with the job of keeping the Red Sox season alive. Matsuzaka bobbed and weaved and stumbled for seven of the most surprising shutout innings ever thrown in the postseason back in Game 1.

Scott Kazmir, who lasted just 4 1/3 innings in Game 2 and gave up five runs, including three home runs, is the starter for Tampa Bay.

Both pitchers throw lots and lots and lots of pitches. So I again suggest stocking up provisions to eat for this one. And if this game is like Game 2, I would suggest that our East Coast and Midwestern viewers double check supplies of coffee, tea, and amphetamines.


2008-10-16 17:00:57
1.   ToyCannon
Let us close it out. A weekend without baseball means I can concentrate on the Laker/Clippers preseason doubleheaders at Staples this weekend.
2008-10-16 17:12:50
2.   Humma Kavula
No one better rain on the Rays' parade. 2-0.
2008-10-16 17:16:53
3.   LogikReader
Question: The Upton home run started to roll off the edge of the monster seats before a guy picked it up. If he let the ball roll off the monster, would it still count as a home run?
2008-10-16 17:28:45
4.   thelarmis
3 it cleared the yellow line before rolling atop the wall. it was a homer all the way!

c'mon Kaz, stop walking folks. leave that to dice-klay...

2008-10-16 17:47:58
5.   bhsportsguy
I want to know how someone who averaged less than 2 home runs per 100 PA this year, now is averaging almost 1 every 6 PA
2008-10-16 17:55:31
6.   Mattpat11
Chip Caray: The Red Sox can't afford to waste this start by Matsuzaka!

Matsuzaka thus far.

2 IP 2 H 1 BB 2 R 1 HR 47 pitches.

Katy bar the door.

2008-10-16 18:05:28
7.   ToyCannon
Easy, he always had the power, just look at his numbers before this year. Scouts have said he has the bat speed of Henry Aaron. Early in the year he pulled his shoulder out of the socket. His shoulder hurt like hell and he had to scale back his swing.
Before the playoffs started Cliff Floyd told him to quit being a weany about the pain and to swing like a man.

The Cliff Floyd part was made up but I did hear that Floyd talked to him about pain management.

Jim Callis several years ago said that based on what scouts have told him that he would not be surprised to see Upton hit 40 home runs. That was when he was a wreck at SS. Now that he is a CF, he may be the closest thing we will see to Willie Mays if his career progresses correctly. He has all the skills, now it depends on how hard he wants to work.

2008-10-16 18:05:32
8.   Humma Kavula
Don't tell 'em not to fly, they've simply got to... 4-0.
2008-10-16 18:08:01
9.   Humma Kavula
Don't bring around a cloud... 5-0.
2008-10-16 18:11:00
10.   Mattpat11
Come on Chip Tell us how Matsuzaka is singlehandedly dragging the Red Sox to game six.
2008-10-16 18:14:28
11.   bhsportsguy
Boston has allowed 36 runs in 3 games plus 3 innings.

I almost the worst thing for the Rays is to have to wait until Wednesday night to play again.

2008-10-16 18:21:27
12.   trainwreck
Imagine playing in little league against the Upton brothers.
2008-10-16 18:51:16
13.   D4P
Skeptics may draw our attention to Jason Varitek's 0-11 performance thus far against the Rays, but I'm sure every one of those outs was productive.
2008-10-16 19:17:42
14.   thelarmis
13 and, obviously, he's been calling great games!
2008-10-16 19:25:16
15.   yankee23
Just got here, who do we have babbling on the mics tonight?
2008-10-16 19:34:20
16.   trainwreck
Chip and Buck to babble and Ron Darling to say something useful.
2008-10-16 19:52:47
17.   Mattpat11
So is the MVP Upton, Longoria, both or someone else?
2008-10-16 19:55:57
18.   trainwreck
Should be Upton.
2008-10-16 20:09:06
19.   Mattpat11
I repeat. if Dustin Pedroia is 5'9" I'm seven feet tall.
2008-10-16 20:12:12
20.   Mattpat11
Oh christ
2008-10-16 20:13:53
21.   trainwreck
They live.
2008-10-16 20:18:43
22.   bhsportsguy
21 So, do you think you will be down for some b-ball in November/December.
2008-10-16 20:26:22
23.   trainwreck
Hopefully. Depends on finding new job.
2008-10-16 20:34:20
24.   Alex41592
I believe we have an instant classic on our hands. Almost.
2008-10-16 20:35:23
25.   LogikReader
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh MY!!

You can thank my post in Dodger Thoughts for this, Rays fans.

Red Sox fans... WOW!! What a comeback!

2008-10-16 20:35:51
26.   bhsportsguy
ummm, can Dan Wheeler get six more outs before he gives up 2 more runs?
2008-10-16 20:40:53
27.   fordprefect
(Scooby -Doo voice) ruh roh!
2008-10-16 20:48:03
28.   bhsportsguy
seriously, has Crisp done something.
2008-10-16 20:49:07
29.   Alex41592
They're playing Don't Stop Believing at Fenway.
2008-10-16 20:49:07
30.   Mattpat11
Well, Joe Maddon stuck with Dan Wheeler despite looking absolutely awful, and this is what he gets.

Maddon choked as bad as Wheeler.

2008-10-16 20:49:22
31.   bhsportsguy
okay, he did.
2008-10-16 20:54:51
32.   Bote Man
As soon as Wheeler came into the game I thought "Oh no."

Just sayin'.

2008-10-16 20:58:41
33.   Mattpat11
If the Red Sox win this game Joe Maddon's decision to stick with Dan Wheeler until the end of time may go down as one of the historically bad managerial decisions, because I think the Red Sox would go on to win the series and then just steamroll Philly.
2008-10-16 21:04:58
34.   Gagne55
Ortiz trying to bunt?
2008-10-16 21:07:30
35.   Bote Man
33 Surely, you're joking?
2008-10-16 21:08:40
36.   Mattpat11
35 About what?
2008-10-16 21:09:20
37.   Gagne55
35 Do you not remember the 2004 or 2007 postseasons?
2008-10-16 21:11:13
38.   Gagne55
Red Sox post season blueprint:
1. Crush the Angels
2. Make epic series comeback
3. Sweep World Series
4. Profit
2008-10-16 21:11:45
39.   Mattpat11
2008-10-16 21:13:31
40.   Mattpat11
Maddon is "unconventional?" He's managing scared is what he is.
2008-10-16 21:15:08
41.   Gagne55
39 Huh?
2008-10-16 21:16:48
42.   Bote Man
...and so it begins.
2008-10-16 21:16:49
43.   Gagne55
And the comeback begins.
2008-10-16 21:17:11
44.   Gagne55
42 Beat me by a second.
2008-10-16 21:17:56
45.   Josh Wilker
Oh. My. God.
2008-10-16 21:22:25
46.   Alex41592
7 run lead.

7 outs from the World Series.

And you lose.

2008-10-16 21:27:06
47.   Mattpat11
You know, when Grady Little left Pedro in the game, at least it was Pedro effing Martinez and it all occurred relatively quickly.

Joe Maddon sat there while Dan Wheeler sloooooooooooooooooooooooooowly crapped the game away.

2008-10-16 21:55:12
48.   Gagne55
Balfour got rocked too.
2008-10-17 07:48:45
49.   ToyCannon
Greatest postseason comeback I've ever seen. Gross didn't exactly display skills in RF.

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