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Game 3 World Series Open Chat, Tampa Bay at Philadelphia, 5:35 pm PT, or so
2008-10-25 16:00
by Bob Timmermann

With rain in the forecast for much of the day and night in Philadelphia, this game could be delayed or possibly be starting and stopping. Eventually, it should be ALCS MVP Matt Garza facing NLCS LVP (Phillies division) Jamie Moyer.

Of course, if we followed the incredibly idiotic Bill Plaschke plan to "save" the World Series, we'd be enjoying this game live from Chase Field in Phoenix. Some people were displeased with this idea, which transcends idiotic.

Let's say you're a fan of a team that has waited 15 years to make the World Series and you live in a large city in Pennsylvania. And now your team is in the World Series, but do you get to go see your favorite team in your hometown? No, you have to make a trip to Phoenix. Why?

I've come across articles in the past from columnists about moving the World Series to a neutral site. And they all came across as pieces written by guys who taken too many plane trips and had sat out in the cold more than they liked.  Jim Murray wanted a neutral site World Series. I was told by my brother that Mel Durslag always wanted one. One notable article was by longtime AP writer Will Grimsley who, stuck in the cold and rain for two days during one World Series, wondered why the Series couldn't be moved to the Astrodome.

Grimsley's article was written the day before Game 6 of the 1975 World Series.

And yet baseball keeps playing the World Series in the league champion's home parks. Why? Maybe it's because baseball fans like it that way. And possibly because even Bud Selig isn't as stupid as Bill Plaschke.

Comments (242)
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2008-10-25 16:24:36
1.   Linkmeister
I wonder how many cold-weather city reporters would sign on for a neutral (read: warm-weather) site.

There was a quote from a player in the WS in one of Angell's books about the fans who attended the games he was playing in. He said something like "These aren't the same fans who were here all summer."

Plaschke's plan would corporatize the WS even more than it already is. The Super Bowl game is rarely attended by a whole lot of the participating teams' fans, I suspect. Travel to New Orleans and the other neutral sites in late January, the concomitant raising of hotel rates, and the price of the tickets precludes their attendance.

2008-10-25 16:27:32
2.   Xeifrank
Philadelphia weather radar:

http://tinyurl.com/5jgbxq

2008-10-25 16:29:51
3.   Xeifrank
There is no reason (besides greed) to be having the World Series this late. There are ways to shorten the season while still playing 162 games. The easiest would be to play a half a dozen double headers per team. Perhaps expanding rosters by one player for double header days. Also, not so many off days between series. Start the season a little earlier, and play the first two weeks in warm weather and dome stadium cities.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 17:25:41
4.   Sam DC
I guess the Times downsized the guy who checks that letter writers aren't angry ex-subscribers who ought not be rewarded for their perfidy.
2008-10-25 18:13:34
5.   Woden325
Somebody, please, wake me when they start playing.
2008-10-25 18:15:42
6.   Bob Timmermann
I've been napping, but I was out at the Breeders Cup all day.
2008-10-25 18:38:52
7.   Woden325
6 See any good crashes?
2008-10-25 18:39:20
8.   Gen3Blue
Wake up guys! They may play soon, though I'm not optimistic they won't stop again. DID I SPELL OPTIMISTIC RIGHT? Anywho, the K+K guys are pretty funny.
2008-10-25 18:40:43
9.   Gen3Blue
Who is on Fox-- is it McCarver?
2008-10-25 18:45:52
10.   Marty
Nothing like a 10 p.m. start time.
2008-10-25 18:45:56
11.   Bob Timmermann
The game should start around 7 pm PT/10 pm ET.
2008-10-25 18:46:05
12.   trainwreck
Is this Rafi? Flippin Philadelphia.
2008-10-25 18:49:09
13.   Bob Timmermann
If there is a World Series Game 6, the Philadelphia 76ers will move their home opener up to 6 pm ET to let fans go home to watch the game, scheduled for an 8:35 pm ET start.
2008-10-25 18:52:20
14.   Linkmeister
That was the biggest guitar capo I've ever seen.
2008-10-25 18:59:42
15.   Woden325
8PM mountain time is no time to start a ball game. I real feel sorry for the schmoes in the Eastern time zone.
2008-10-25 19:00:36
16.   Sam DC
I feel like a schmoe.
2008-10-25 19:00:41
17.   Andrew Shimmin
This is why the Phillies should have done the right thing and rolled over for the Dodgers. Game would have started right on time, if they had.
2008-10-25 19:02:29
18.   Woden325
16 Go west, young man.
2008-10-25 19:03:12
19.   Bob Timmermann
There are rain delays of games all year round. I went to a regular season game in Cleveland that started around 9:00 pm this year.

It happens.

2008-10-25 19:05:28
20.   Woden325
19 Well yes, but Cleveland was trying its best to vex you.
2008-10-25 19:07:19
21.   Bob Timmermann
I went to two games in Cleveland and BOTH were delayed.
2008-10-25 19:07:25
22.   Woden325
Hey, it's baseball!
2008-10-25 19:08:10
23.   Bob Timmermann
I'm betting das411 sat through the rain delay.
2008-10-25 19:09:04
24.   Sam DC
It would be much simpler if they played these at the old dome Amundson-Scott dome. Time zone problems gone!
2008-10-25 19:09:38
25.   Gen3Blue
16 Maybe we're Schmoos?
2008-10-25 19:10:44
26.   Woden325
24 Quick, call Bill Plaschke!
2008-10-25 19:11:25
27.   Bob Timmermann
The problem with the Amundsen-Scott Dome is more that the South Pole is at altitude. It's over 9000 ft! The ball really carries there.
2008-10-25 19:12:43
28.   Woden325
Advantage: Rockies!
2008-10-25 19:15:44
29.   underdog
That reminds me, definitely check out the Werner Herzog doc on Antarctica (and the people, and animals, who live there) when it comes out on DVD next month. It's terrific.

As for this game, I'm already bored. That rain delay sapped all the care out of me. Time for dinner.

2008-10-25 19:16:21
30.   Bob Timmermann
Which will end first tonight: the World Series game or the USC-Arizona game which will be kicking off momentarily.
2008-10-25 19:16:32
31.   Woden325
Tim McGraw is more interesting than Tim McCarver.
2008-10-25 19:19:23
32.   Mattpat11
They couldn't have Tim McGraw retape that?
2008-10-25 19:23:01
33.   dianagramr
rip Tug McGraw ...
2008-10-25 19:26:08
34.   Indiana Jon
I'm surprised you guys haven't been watching the Notre Dame game while waiting on the rain delay. It's going quite well.
2008-10-25 19:26:15
35.   dianagramr
surprised they're not IBBing Howard
2008-10-25 19:28:07
36.   Bob Timmermann
34
No one should be forced to watch Washington play. I believe that Notre Dame has a decided schematic advantage in tonight's matchup.
2008-10-25 19:28:53
37.   Bob Timmermann
And the Phillies go 0 for 3 with RISP.
2008-10-25 19:29:05
38.   dianagramr
They're STILL playing that stupid Rocky theme?

(I hate Fox)

2008-10-25 19:30:11
39.   dianagramr
36

Being forced to watch Washington State is a violation of the Geneva Convention, isn't it?

2008-10-25 19:33:20
40.   trainwreck
Carl Crawford is fast.
2008-10-25 19:35:42
41.   Bob Timmermann
Washington has 51 yards of offense in the fourth quarter at home. And Notre Dame's defense isn't that good.
2008-10-25 19:37:10
42.   Bob Timmermann
Are the Phillies fan booing Jason Bartlett for any particular reason or was it just because they gave up a run?
2008-10-25 19:37:49
43.   dianagramr
do they have microphone stationed in the outfield?
2008-10-25 19:38:21
44.   Indiana Jon
36 I will admit the only thing enjoyable about this game is watching the Irish beat Willingham so badly. It just might be true that he lost the job at Notre Dame because he isn't a good coach.
2008-10-25 19:42:42
45.   Bob Timmermann
So the Phillies batter like to go after the high ones? Like Kit Hinson? Did Dottie tip off the Rays to this?
2008-10-25 19:43:54
46.   trainwreck
Great play by Bartlett.
2008-10-25 19:43:57
47.   Gen3Blue
If we could pick up or develop an outfielder and second baseman who are fast we could play some good small ball too! ( I feel I must point out for management that these two would have to have good on base percentage, a stat often labelled OBP. Why does this need me feel tired.)
2008-10-25 19:44:01
48.   dianagramr
45

Brett Favre tipped them off ...

2008-10-25 19:46:59
49.   Bob Timmermann
Ruiz hit the first homer by an NL catcher in the World Series since Rod Barajas in 2001 Game 5.
2008-10-25 19:48:44
50.   Gen3Blue
I've got a feeling if you click here, your IQ is already pigeon-holed by some marketing fool.
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2008-10-25 19:53:46
51.   Gen3Blue
Feliz--how did he ever get away from the Giants? He seemed to be their archetypal veteran.
2008-10-25 19:55:30
52.   Bob Timmermann
The Giants wanted to go in a different direction at third. No one knows what direction is though. It seemed to involve Rich Aurilia.
2008-10-25 19:55:35
53.   underdog
Jeez Rays -- one hit vs. Moyer through 3? Really? I recommend more productivity if you can. Thanks.
2008-10-25 19:56:31
54.   Bote Man
52 Older.
2008-10-25 19:58:46
55.   Bob Timmermann
David Ross wouldn't have thrown out Rollins.
2008-10-25 20:00:35
56.   Gen3Blue
Whoa! That was a sickenly good play by Navarro. And Werth--I can't believe the players we got nothing for!
2008-10-25 20:01:44
57.   D4P
I can't believe the players we got nothing for

Meanwhile, we give Andruw Jones $18 million a year.

2008-10-25 20:03:07
58.   Gen3Blue
Did I mention Upton reminds me a bit of Willie. I hope not.
2008-10-25 20:03:57
59.   Bob Timmermann
57
Do you have a macro for that?
2008-10-25 20:05:05
60.   Gen3Blue
D4P Don't get me going! A few years ago I would have blown up like a fool. Now I only choke a bit in private.
2008-10-25 20:05:08
61.   trainwreck
Whoever picks the music for FOX deserves a punch to the gut.
2008-10-25 20:06:13
62.   D4P
59
I wish.
2008-10-25 20:06:21
63.   Gen3Blue
61 And perhaps a thumb in the eyeball.
2008-10-25 20:09:21
64.   Bob Timmermann
America can breathe a sigh of relief as Penn State put a stake through the heart of Ohio State and the Buckeyes won't be boring us in the BCS Championship game.
2008-10-25 20:09:23
65.   Gen3Blue
I can't quite contain it all. Its like one of those cheap airline bags trying to contain the output from both ends. But what are we paying Schmidt next year?
2008-10-25 20:11:29
66.   Mattpat11
What the hell was that?
2008-10-25 20:12:24
67.   Gen3Blue
Anyhow, we are probably paying Schmidt the majority of the Ray's Payroll to get a few massages next year--but that is MLB.
2008-10-25 20:13:17
68.   dianagramr
I like how TV shows feature specific cars now (no I'm not talking Knight Rider)
2008-10-25 20:21:48
69.   Bob Timmermann
I do want Joe Maddon's cap. Just because I want to see how it works.
2008-10-25 20:22:29
70.   Bluebleeder87
well, Matt Garza looks pretty sharp except for that dinger he gave up... Moyer also looks pretty good.
2008-10-25 20:23:23
71.   dianagramr
Jeffrey Leonard has one of those caps ... but he wears it "one flap down"
2008-10-25 20:25:09
72.   dianagramr
69

here's your holiday present Bob

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=60937

2008-10-25 20:29:44
73.   D4P
72
Might want to buy one for Dick Cheney's friend while you're at it.
2008-10-25 20:30:31
74.   Bob Timmermann
72
Does it have to be orange? Does MLB sell Tampa Bay Rays caps that have flaps? That just seems weird.

It's like watching the Hawai'i football team playing in the Rockies and they have all this cold weather gear. It just seems odd on them.

2008-10-25 20:34:26
75.   D4P
Moyer just threw 4 consecutive fastballs at 81 MPH.
2008-10-25 20:36:02
76.   scareduck
75 - you forgot the sneer quote on "fastballs".
2008-10-25 20:37:43
77.   Bluebleeder87
some significant things that happened right around the time Jamie Moyer debut with the Cubs (June 6, '86)

June 8 - The Boston Celtics defeat the Houston Rockets in six games to win the NBA Championship.

June 9 - The Rogers Commission releases its report on the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster.

2008-10-25 20:38:24
78.   Bluebleeder87
music from '86

1. "That's What Friends Are For".....Dionne & Friends
2. "Walk Like An Egyptian".....Bangles
3. "On My Own".....Patti Labelle & Michael McDonald
4. "The Way It Is".....Bruce Hornsby & The Range
5. "You Give Love A Bad Name".....Bon Jovi
6. "Greatest Love Of All".....Whitney Houston
7. "There'll Be Sad Songs".....Billy Ocean
8. "How Will I Know".....Whitney Houston
9. "Kyrie".....Mr. Mister
10. "Kiss".....Prince & The Revolution

2008-10-25 20:39:55
79.   Gen3Blue
You know, I think Andruw is going to be an unprecedented thing in baseball, and possibly in all of sports. Am I missing someone? or as lot of someones?
2008-10-25 20:41:52
80.   D4P
76
I thought they were too obvious.
2008-10-25 20:43:10
81.   Gen3Blue
78 11 "Thomas and his Friends".... Ringo Starr.
2008-10-25 20:44:16
82.   Bluebleeder87
73 76

it makes it that much more admirable how he was able to squeeze 16 W's with that "craftiness" it's amazing man...

2008-10-25 20:50:53
83.   thelarmis
64 We Are...PENN STATE! good for JoePa - first time we won at ohio state in thirty years. i'm not a college football fan - baseball only, for me - but PSU is my alma mater, so this is a nice victory for me : )
2008-10-25 20:56:34
84.   Gen3Blue
And it is midnight back east.
2008-10-25 20:58:55
85.   Bob Timmermann
But they're playing at a fairly quick pace. Mainly because not a lot of guys are getting on base.
2008-10-25 20:59:02
86.   underdog
That was not the greatest of at bats, Pena.
2008-10-25 21:00:15
87.   underdog
Talk about a ball that DIED.

Or I guess he just got under it. Wow, I was sure that was gone.

2008-10-25 21:00:16
88.   Andrew Shimmin
No. Way.
2008-10-25 21:01:09
89.   underdog
Who's this faux #8 on the Dodgers in that beer ad? Imposter.
2008-10-25 21:01:37
90.   Bluebleeder87
the baseball gods toy'eth...
2008-10-25 21:03:09
91.   Gen3Blue
A dying Quail! or should I say Qayle? Doesn't Bob allow some things DT doesn't?
2008-10-25 21:04:11
92.   Andrew Shimmin
I've found Bob even less forgiving of spelling errors than Jon is, actually.
2008-10-25 21:04:23
93.   Bob Timmermann
91
You can feel free to make a joke about any American Vice President with the exception of Garret Hobart.
2008-10-25 21:04:56
94.   D4P
Doesn't Bob allow some things DT doesn't?

The only Rule on the The Griddle is that you have to keep your watch on Pacific Time.

2008-10-25 21:05:22
95.   Andrew Shimmin
The whole thing is rigged.
2008-10-25 21:05:26
96.   underdog
And then of course that one goes out. Those are like the weird winds in Wrigley Field we saw a couple of weeks ago.
2008-10-25 21:06:37
97.   underdog
93 What about Hannibal Hamlin? Too soon?
2008-10-25 21:08:13
98.   Andrew Shimmin
I officially protest this game.
2008-10-25 21:08:23
99.   D4P
The wind is stupid.
2008-10-25 21:09:08
100.   trainwreck
This is depressing.
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2008-10-25 21:09:14
101.   Gen3Blue
Is this Utley a free agent soon, because I don't want someone from our division.
2008-10-25 21:10:41
102.   Bob Timmermann
Instead of complaining about the wind, shouldn't Garza throw better pitches?
2008-10-25 21:10:51
103.   dianagramr
The Phillies "wait til the midnight hour"
2008-10-25 21:11:40
104.   Andrew Shimmin
102- Splitter.
2008-10-25 21:11:55
105.   D4P
Throwing better pitches is Garza's job. Complaining about the wind is ours.
2008-10-25 21:12:17
106.   Bob Timmermann
USC and Arizona tied at 10-10 in the third quarter in part two of the Bob Timmermann Internal Conflict Classic

Cal won game one.

2008-10-25 21:12:46
107.   Gen3Blue
93 Don't worry, I wouldn't think of doing so. And surprisingly, I'm for the National League here, for some reason.
2008-10-25 21:12:50
108.   Bob Timmermann
105
Ahh, division of labor.
2008-10-25 21:13:52
109.   D4P
108
I almost typed that!
2008-10-25 21:14:10
110.   Bob Timmermann
The Phillies still don't have any hits with a runner in scoring position in this game.

I'm beginning to think that such a stat can be deceptive.

2008-10-25 21:15:09
111.   D4P
And none of the Phillies's homeruns have killed rallies.
2008-10-25 21:18:41
112.   Bob Timmermann
How many times have you ever seen the first baseman catch a throw in his bare hand?

People who watched baseball in the 1880s don't need to reply.

2008-10-25 21:19:13
113.   Gen3Blue
There is one of the few obvious bad calls I've seen this post season. Lets see if it matters. I'd still like to see it again.
2008-10-25 21:19:34
114.   dianagramr
hopefully that doesn't become a Denkinger moment ...

(though ... let's go Rays!)

2008-10-25 21:19:47
115.   Sam DC
Shouldn't it be 11 Angry Men?

Other than that sounding lame and sort of ruining the movie/play?

2008-10-25 21:20:15
116.   Gen3Blue
110 You have something there.
2008-10-25 21:22:26
117.   Bob Timmermann
And now it's Gabe Gross Time!
2008-10-25 21:22:36
118.   Gen3Blue
111 I don't know. They both kept men off the bases.

Ought Ohhh. That call may have mattered.

2008-10-25 21:24:14
119.   Bob Timmermann
Six runs in the game now with no hits with RISP.
2008-10-25 21:28:37
120.   Bob Timmermann
Seven runs without the "big hit."

Except for the three the Phillies hit over the wall.

2008-10-25 21:28:40
121.   Sam DC
That one was just for you Bob.
2008-10-25 21:29:55
122.   Gen3Blue
And think of the 4+1 game. RISP had little to do with the outcome.

Oh Willie, did we leave you too soon?

2008-10-25 21:31:51
123.   Gen3Blue
I can't be staying up to watch this stuff, can I?
2008-10-25 21:33:05
124.   Xeifrank
Iwamura can hit lefties that don't throw 70mph. :)
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 21:36:26
125.   Bob Timmermann
Although Iwamura whiffed, it was interesting to discover that he hits lefties slightly better than righthanders.
2008-10-25 21:37:51
126.   fordprefect
114
or a Jennings moment.
2008-10-25 21:38:03
127.   Gen3Blue
Ask the milkman--white with foam!
2008-10-25 21:39:02
128.   dianagramr
Wow .... Washington had 55 yards of total offense prior to their final drive ...
2008-10-25 21:40:02
129.   berkowit28
What a godawful singer.
2008-10-25 21:41:19
130.   fordprefect
127
How can you be in two places at once when...?
2008-10-25 21:51:12
131.   Xeifrank
I am not impressed with Rollins' fielding so far.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 21:51:44
132.   Xeifrank
Pena mashes righties. Come on!
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 21:54:38
133.   Xeifrank
Don't whiff or hit into a dbp Pena!
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 21:54:59
134.   Xeifrank
Full count, send Upton?
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 21:55:19
135.   Xeifrank
That sure was ugly.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 21:55:45
136.   Xeifrank
Echo...Echo...Echo...
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 21:56:50
137.   Bob Timmermann
That's eight ...
2008-10-25 21:56:55
138.   Xeifrank
Holy cow, Upton for Prez!
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 21:57:46
139.   fordprefect
Now the Phillies fans will start blaming the officiating for the outcome of the game....
2008-10-25 21:59:30
140.   Bob Timmermann
I remember early in the year when Arizona State was supposed to be good.
2008-10-25 22:00:31
141.   Bote Man
Oh man...Phillies fans over at thegoodphight.com are NOT happy.
2008-10-25 22:00:54
142.   thelarmis
poor moyer...

138 i've always wondered, what does the "vr, xei" mean, if you don't mind me asking?! : )

2008-10-25 22:04:01
143.   Xeifrank
142. vr = very respectfully.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:04:44
144.   Xeifrank
142. vr = very respectfully.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:06:33
145.   Xeifrank
I haven't been all that impressed with Bradford this series.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:08:35
146.   Bob Timmermann
145
This is the first time Bradford has pitched in the World Series. Do you mean the ALCS?
2008-10-25 22:08:57
147.   Xeifrank
I could go for a double play about now.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:10:46
148.   Xeifrank
Come on, throw strikes.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:10:50
149.   Bob Timmermann
This is just the fifth time a player has stolen three bases in a World Series game. Lou Brock did it twice, Willie Davis once, and Honus Wagner the other time.
2008-10-25 22:11:35
150.   Xeifrank
Utley should bunt with this shift.
vr, Xei
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2008-10-25 22:12:15
151.   thelarmis
143 ah, i like that, thanks! very respectfully is very cool! : ) still don't get the xei, but i completely dig the respect factor. cheers, frank! : )
2008-10-25 22:12:27
152.   Xeifrank
A bunt is an automatic single if you can get the bunt down away from the pitcher. Why not try it.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:13:53
153.   Bob Timmermann
Werth shouldn't have stolen. Now Utley will be unable to get a hit!
2008-10-25 22:14:10
154.   Xeifrank
Rays gotta do a better job holding runners on. This is pathetic.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:15:39
155.   Xeifrank
wow, big K. Gotta love the back to back lefties in the Philly lineup.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:15:46
156.   underdog
Well, this has turned out to be a good game after all. Even if running tortuously late.
2008-10-25 22:15:55
157.   Bob Timmermann
153
I'm finding this all rather eerie.
2008-10-25 22:16:19
158.   KG16
Mr. McCarver, as a general rule, when a guy swings at a pitch two feet below the strike zone and a foot off the plate, it's pretty much a guarantee that it was a breaking ball.
2008-10-25 22:17:04
159.   Xeifrank
Yes. Dumb Werth! Werthless
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:17:10
160.   fordprefect
uh-oh!
2008-10-25 22:17:11
161.   Bob Timmermann
Now Howard can get a hit!
2008-10-25 22:17:32
162.   KG16
I blame the years of Dodger coaching for the base running gaffe there.
2008-10-25 22:17:48
163.   arborial
to paraphrase McCarver

"there is an old saying in baseball, its the guy with the stick that can beat you"

Excuse me? Was Tim taking a nap when Upton flew around the bases last inning? While might I add, the guy with the stick stood around and watched his teammate score.

2008-10-25 22:17:54
164.   KG16
shouldn't that have been a balk?
2008-10-25 22:18:02
165.   fordprefect
161
heh.
2008-10-25 22:18:39
166.   Xeifrank
164. Why? I would have to see a replay? Did he start towards home?
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:18:41
167.   KG16
163 - did I miss a guy steal home?

please tell me I didn't miss that...

2008-10-25 22:19:33
168.   underdog
You guys are actually watching this with the sound up? I just watch it on mute with music playing in the background. It's much more enjoyable and much less mccarvered.
2008-10-25 22:19:33
169.   KG16
166 - the replay they just showed with him on the mound was close, he did a high leg kick and turned. Looked strange.
2008-10-25 22:19:34
170.   Bob Timmermann
167
No, Upton stole third and came home when Ruiz's throw hit him and bounced away.
2008-10-25 22:20:08
171.   Xeifrank
wow, Good Phight can't be happy with that result.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:20:53
172.   KG16
I just want to point out, if the Dodgers could have got a hit with runners on in the NLCS, heck, if they could have got runners on base in the NLCS, many of us would likely have been at the game tonight.
2008-10-25 22:20:56
173.   Xeifrank
169. As long as you don't pause or start towards home, nothing wrong with it. I'd have to see the replay to make sure. :)
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:20:56
174.   underdog
There's the Howard we know and love.
2008-10-25 22:21:45
175.   Xeifrank
Who finishes their game first tonight. USC or Tampa Bay?
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:21:46
176.   KG16
170 - ok, i feel better.

well, back to Civ IV, dang that game is addictive

2008-10-25 22:21:54
177.   thelarmis
168 that's my playbook! been listening to horace silver w/ the game on mute! : )
2008-10-25 22:22:14
178.   Bob Timmermann
I looked at the pickoff again and all Howell did was pick his leg straight up. He didn't step toward home.

It was just an awkward move.

2008-10-25 22:24:23
179.   Bob Timmermann
175
I'm betting on USC. There's about 2 minutes left in that one. And I doubt Arizona is going to tie it up.

And I feel good that Arizona is losing to USC!

2008-10-25 22:26:21
180.   Xeifrank
Wonder why Tampa Bay is still playing their left handed hitting RFer. vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:30:15
181.   Xeifrank
Finger nail biting time.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:32:27
182.   Xeifrank
The band is on the field!
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:33:34
183.   Xeifrank
Please throw strikes!
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:33:56
184.   Bob Timmermann
And I am spared the unfortunate sight of having Arizona fans come to my neighborhood during the holidays.

Whew!

2008-10-25 22:34:24
185.   Xeifrank
Not a good start to the B9th.
Sac bunt coming up.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:34:36
186.   Bluebleeder87
ouch, that's gonna leave a mark.
2008-10-25 22:35:18
187.   Xeifrank
184. And most likely Ohio State fans too. Double win for you.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:38:55
188.   Bluebleeder87
sigh.
2008-10-25 22:38:58
189.   Xeifrank
oh crap!
vr Xei
2008-10-25 22:39:10
190.   Xeifrank
IBB now.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:39:24
191.   Bob Timmermann
Victorino must do me proud and get a sac fly here.
2008-10-25 22:39:26
192.   Andrew Shimmin
Live by the sword, trip over the same damn sword and kill yourself like a jerk.
2008-10-25 22:39:40
193.   Xeifrank
CF was in bad position for the backup.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:39:40
194.   Bluebleeder87
1) bad pitch
2) bad throw (why throw!?) Navarro.
2008-10-25 22:40:11
195.   Xeifrank
191. He won't bat.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:40:32
196.   Xeifrank
Will you see back to back IBB? I doubt it.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:40:49
197.   Xeifrank
You have to bring in your best strike out pitcher. vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:40:56
198.   Bob Timmermann
And by doing me proud, I mean my weird desire to see no runs scored without an RBI hit.
2008-10-25 22:41:47
199.   Tripon
The DT crowd love for Navarro made him throw that error. Reminded me of Martin two base error in San Fran in the last series in the game.
2008-10-25 22:41:55
200.   Xeifrank
Interesting.
vr, Xei
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2008-10-25 22:42:05
201.   Andrew Shimmin
Secret Weapon!
2008-10-25 22:42:35
202.   dianagramr
Letting Gross bat in the top of the 9th was the start of the problems for the Rays. It was almost giving the Phillies an out.
2008-10-25 22:42:45
203.   Xeifrank
Steal 2nd base to start things off.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:43:16
204.   Xeifrank
IBB.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:43:34
205.   dianagramr
Jeepers .... its 1:45 in the morning here in NY.
2008-10-25 22:43:37
206.   Xeifrank
Now they gotta throw strikes. No more walks folks. vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:43:59
207.   Xeifrank
I'd bring Price in and go for the strike out.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:44:13
208.   dianagramr
After all this ... I could see a HBP or WP or PB deciding this.
2008-10-25 22:44:21
209.   Xeifrank
Bob, Tim McCarver just called.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:44:26
210.   Bob Timmermann
Balfour strikes out plenty of guys.
2008-10-25 22:44:39
211.   Xeifrank
208. or a CI.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:45:08
212.   Xeifrank
210. Yes, but his name is ball-four.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:45:19
213.   Bob Timmermann
211
That would be sweet....
2008-10-25 22:45:19
214.   dianagramr
211

or a plain-ol' walk ...

2008-10-25 22:47:34
215.   Xeifrank
crap!
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:47:36
216.   Bob Timmermann
Hit or FC?
2008-10-25 22:47:39
217.   Andrew Shimmin
That would have gone foul.
2008-10-25 22:47:55
218.   Bob Timmermann
If I were scoring, it would be a hit.
2008-10-25 22:48:39
219.   Xeifrank
wonder if that ball would've trickled foul... just sayin. vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:48:47
220.   Bluebleeder87
this game is so amazingly weirdly beautiful, gawd I love it...
2008-10-25 22:49:30
221.   Bob Timmermann
And Ruiz was indeed given a hit.
2008-10-25 22:49:39
222.   Xeifrank
They needed a six man infield.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 22:50:23
223.   underdog
Well, that happened.

Even among desperate throws home that was not the best I've ever seen.

Good game, though.

2008-10-25 22:51:52
224.   Linkmeister
That was one of the weirdest innings I've ever seen. Poor Longoria, trying to loop the ball over the runner's head.
2008-10-25 22:55:42
225.   Bob Timmermann
It ended before the UH football game!
2008-10-25 22:59:21
226.   Xeifrank
I had the Phillies as fairly solid favorites for Game #3. I have it as even for Game #4. Rays better win that one, as Hamels is waiting in the wings for Game #5. They Rays never do things the easy way, that's been their MO for pretty much the whole season. Just take a look at how they won the ALCS and how they won the AL East. Teasing you, one day they looked like sure things, only to look like sure losers, only in the end to pull it out.
vr, Xei
2008-10-25 23:00:11
227.   Linkmeister
225 Nah. That game's been on since 6:00pm. It's now 8:00pm.
2008-10-25 23:02:17
228.   Linkmeister
UH leads 14-10 at the beginning of the third quarter.
2008-10-25 23:05:32
229.   Linkmeister
17-10 after the first drive of the 3rd.
2008-10-25 23:08:35
230.   Linkmeister
Well, foo. Nevada takes the kickoff and on its first play from scrimmage runs 79 yards to tie the game.
2008-10-25 23:15:37
231.   Linkmeister
50+-yard kickoff return for UH, 40-yard pass play and short run. UH back up 24-17. 7:08 left in the 3rd.
2008-10-25 23:34:40
232.   Linkmeister
31-17 UH on a 10-yard pass play with 14:54 left in the game.
2008-10-25 23:47:58
233.   Linkmeister
Nevada scores a TD. UH leads 31-24 with 10 minutes or so to go.
2008-10-26 00:05:32
234.   das411
8-25-95 may have just been officially supplanted as the greatest game I have ever attended.

WOW.

pix eventually once my comp batteries (and i) recharge!

2008-10-26 00:07:56
235.   Linkmeister
Hell. Tied 31-31 with 1:30 to go.
2008-10-26 00:23:56
236.   das411
and 23 , my tix were standing room only, we were on our feet from walking into the ballpark at 6pm til we snuck into Harry the K's in the 7th inning...the way REAL fans do it!

pix to come tomorrow once my batteries (and i) recharge.

2008-10-26 00:25:06
237.   Linkmeister
UH goes ahead 38-31 with 20 seconds to go.
2008-10-26 00:30:47
238.   Linkmeister
And holds on to win as Nevada gets flagged for illegal formation on the last play at its own 40 as time runs out.
2008-10-26 00:51:41
239.   bhsportsguy
So would the Philly home runs been home runs in any other ballpark?
2008-10-26 01:06:52
240.   Bob Timmermann
239
All three Philly homers were hit pretty hard.
2008-10-26 11:57:03
241.   das411
http://community.webshots.com/user/das411WS2008

Pix will be in rough chronological order because I had to swap between two memory cards and about six camera batteries...and my umbrella and rally towel and sneaks are still drying out!

2008-10-26 13:05:14
242.   Linkmeister
I got a kick out of Ryan Howard's joke during his on-field interview after the game. Myers (I think) asked if he'd ever seen a five-man infield before and what he thought, and Howard said "I thought they were gonna blitz."

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