Baseball Toaster The Griddle
A place where a man can slow down to a walk and live his life full measure, but he has to keep his watch on Pacific Time.
Frozen Toast
Google Search
The Griddle

02  01 

12  11  10  09  08  07 
06  05  04  03  02  01 

12  11  10  09  08  07 
06  05  04  03  02  01 

12  11  10  09  08  07 
06  05  04  03  02  01 

12  10  07 
06  05  04  03 
Suggestions, comments, ring the catcher's interference alarm?

Email me at

The stuff I keep track of
Random Game Callbacks

Select a date:

Personal favorites that I wrote
Please make them stop!
2008-11-03 10:08
by Bob Timmermann

In his blog yesterday (which you have to pay extra for), Buster Olney of had what had to be the lamest reasons for a neutral site World Series.

I will only excerpt small parts since this is special value-added content!

Along the way, MLB could arrange for Hall of Famers to attend daily fan-fest functions, panels and autograph-signing sessions and seminars. The general managers could hold their annual meetings during that week, and the GMs could break away from their hotel to hold town-hall-style talks with fans about their teams as their managers are in town. The baseball writers could announce, day by day, the winners of the major awards -- rookies of the year on the first day, managers of the year on the second day, Cy Young winners on the third day and the MVPs on the last day. The Hall of Fame could announce its induction class for the following summer. In a place like Phoenix or San Diego, there could be daily charity golf tournaments, and fans could be part of the scramble. MLB could feature the John Smoltz Desert Classic on the first day, the Jeff Francoeur Invitational the second day and so on.
Woo hoo! Celebrity golf tournaments as part of the World Series! Count me in! That's what's been missing all these years. The best part of a Jeff Francouer golf tournament is that golf is the sport that he would be best at because you HAVE to swing at the ball in that sport. He'd be right at home. But seriously, am I going to spend a few thousand dollars to go to Phoenix so I can golf with Jeff Francouer by day and watch the World Series by night?

And I'm sure that the six Kansas City Royals fans who show up at this neutral site World Series will be waiting for Dayton Moore's musings on who will be the long man in the Royals bullpen in 2012.

Buster, you grew up in Vermont. You must own warm clothing. Put some on. You'll survive.

2008-11-03 10:24:32
1.   Xeifrank
Speaking of "making them stop", the BCS picture appears to be a particularly big mess this year. runs through all the different permutations for each of the top 7 or so teams to get in. Looks like USC will be playing in the Flower Vase at best this year, with hopefully a nice little parade to rev up the fans. My 8 and 12 team college football playoff formats haven't quite shaked out yet, but here's what they'd look like if the season ended today.
vr, Xei

-------------- 8 Teams ---------------
(8) West Virgina vs (1) Alabama
(5) Florida vs (4) Texas
(6) USC vs (3) Penn State
(7) North Carolina vs (2) Texas Tech

-------------- 12 Teams ----------------
(1) Alabama vs
(9) vs Oklahoma State
(8) Utah
(4) Texas vs
(12) West Virgina vs
(5) Florida
(3) Penn State vs
(11) North Carolina vs
(6) Oklahoma
(10) Boise State vs
(7) USC
(2) Texas Tech vs

2008-11-03 10:50:33
2.   Eric Stephen
With a playoff, this past weekend's Texas v. Texas Tech game would not have meant nearly as much.
2008-11-03 11:06:21
3.   Eric Enders
If Penn State wins out and thus becomes unavailable to the Rose Bowl, perhaps we could see a Texas-USC rematch in Pasadena.
2008-11-03 11:26:24
4.   Bob Timmermann
A Texas-USC Rose Bowl is one of's two projections for the Rose Bowl.

The other is Ohio State-USC.

As much as I like a Big 10 vs. Pac-10 Rose Bowl, I won't be welcoming to the good people of Columbus when they visit Pasadena. They will get nothing but scorn from me. I will give them the frowning of a lifetime!

2008-11-03 11:29:37
5.   Eric Stephen
USC-Texas would be a sweet game, whether in Pasadena or Miami (a man can dream!).
2008-11-03 11:38:15
6.   Bob Timmermann
I just hope it isn't cold on New Year's Day. Then they'll have to move the Rose Bowl to a warm weather site.

It was weird that the last time it rained significantly on New Year's Day in Pasadena was in 2006.

And the Rose Bowl wasn't played on New Year's Day that year.

God wanted a good field.

2008-11-03 12:29:41
7.   das411
All I can think of when reading stuff like this is the Run-DMC song that starts out "Dumb, dumb dumb, dumb, dumb dumb dumb, dumb-dumb-dumb..."
2008-11-03 12:38:56
8.   Xeifrank
2. True, but I'd rather have a champion crowned on the field, instead of on the micro-chip.
vr, Xei
2008-11-03 15:26:38
9.   Eric Stephen
The most change I'm in favor of is a "plus 1" game after the bowls with the top 2 teams.

I like the bowl system and the tradition, and that each week is of huge importance to title contenders.

And the "computer" rankings only comprise a third of the BCS ratings. And those computer rankings were designed by people. I'm typing my opinion here on my computer; does this mean my thoughts were derived from a micro-chip?

I would also eliminate pre-season polls. I would wait until at least October (so teams have 4-5 games under their belt) to release any type of poll.

2008-11-03 15:54:46
10.   Xeifrank
9. Computer polls, people polls, I am against both. Niether should decide which 2 teams get to play in a championship game. Perhaps they can decide who plays in an 8, 12 or 16 team playoff. As I wouldn't feel sorry for the 9th team being left out of an 8 team playoff, like I would for an undefeated major conference team that could easily get left out of a 2 team playoff. Or what happens when you have ten one loss teams vying for the #2 ranking? Weekly exciting games are great, but because of this system you've all but eliminated seven teams from playing for the championship. I think the best part of the BCS is the parades. I love me a good parade. :)
vr, Xei
2008-11-03 16:46:45
11.   Eric Stephen
I think a 12- and 16-team playoff is simply too many games, and would really cheapen the bowls (even if the bowls are used as rounds of the playoff), not to mention the regular season.

Plus, with that many teams you would see a limited incentive to schedule hard non-conference games, since it isn't too relatively difficult to finish in the top 12 or 16. This could also hurt the good teams from smaller conferences because fewer good teams are willing to schedule them when they can just use the K-State Schedule Simulator and finish in the top 12 or 16.

On a separate point, the Big Ten once again hurt itself by ending the seasonal schedule early. Penn State's final game is November 22, a full two weeks before many others (most if not all other title contenders). So they, like Ohio State the last two years, will have a ridiculous amount of down time between games (I believe 46 off days in Penn State's case). If Penn State makes the title game, take the other team and lay the points! :)

2008-11-03 16:57:21
12.   Xeifrank
11. Depending on which system you go with, 8, 12 or 16 (I've devisied a blueprint online for each scenario, google: XeiOnSports), you give incentive for winning your conference. If you don't win your conference, then you better look good in the polls. My system fairly weights the task of winning your conference AND secondarily being ranked high. Currently, how many bowl games are played? A 16 team playoff (the highest in my blueprint), would only require 15 games, each one a meaningful elimination game. Currently, all but one post-season college football game is meaningful. That's a joke! Yes, it is human nature to be afraid of or doubtful of change. And change just for the sake of change is also not a good thing. But when you arbitrarily choose which teams get to play in a championship game, you've put college football in the crosshairs of change. And don't get me started on the 7 week layoffs between the end of the season and the championship game. Hmmm, 7 weeks... you could easily fit a three, four or five round playoff in there and a few good parades to boot.
vr, Xei
2008-11-03 18:40:54
13.   grandcosmo
This is a microcosm of why baseball has to entertain idiotic suggestions regarding how to spice up the World Series. You write a baseball post on a baseball website and 11 of the 12 responses are about football.
2008-11-03 18:44:26
14.   Xeifrank
13. Over half the posts Bob makes including this one are really about the BCS. You have to read through his baseball guise.
vr, Xei
2008-11-03 19:35:15
15.   das411
Since everybody was wondering...Bob, can you loop just the first 20 seconds of this video/audio every time you make one of these posts?

2008-11-04 13:48:21
16.   Woden325
I think it's time baseball fans take a stand on this neutral site silliness.

I pledge that if the WS is moved to a neutral site:
I will not go to the games.
I will not watch it on TV.
I will not listen on the radio.
I will not buy any merchandise from the series or the teams in the series.

Comment status: comments have been closed. Baseball Toaster is now out of business.