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WBC Game Chat: México vs Korea, 8 pm PT
2006-03-12 19:06
by Bob Timmermann

Live from Angel Stadium! Also on ESPN2 and ESPN Deportes.

The final game of the day might draw a sizeable crowd in Anaheim despite the cool weather as both teams are well-represented among the many ethnic groups of Southern California. México's presence no doubt delights Angels owner Arte Moreno who is trying hard to increase his team's Latino fan base.

México manager Pequin Estrada hadn't settled on a starter, but Rodrigo Lopez started México's first game against the USA and pitched well. Korean manager In Sik Kim will start either Chan Ho Park, who had two saves in the opening round, or Jae Seo.

It may not be a high-scoring affair as both teams have had good pitching and the weather is likely to be chilly in Anaheim and there should be a lot of fly balls dying on the warning track.

FINAL SCORE Korea 2, México 1

WP -- Jae Seo
LP -- Rodrigo Lopez
Save -- Chan Ho Park (tournament leading third)
HRs -- Seung-Yeop Lee (tournament leading fourth), Luis A. Garcia

Comments (53)
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2006-03-12 19:16:20
1.   Bob Timmermann
It looks like this won't be on ESPN2 live.

Unless it is.

2006-03-12 19:19:50
2.   Icaros
My TV says it is.

It was right the last time.

2006-03-12 19:20:25
3.   Bob Timmermann
K. Garcia CF
Cantu 2B
Castilla 3B
Durazo DH
Gil C
Gonzalez 1B
Luis A Garcia LF
Valenzuela RF
Castro SS
Lopez P

SY Lee 1B
Choi DH
BH Lee 3B
Jin C
J Park SS
JK Kim 2B
Seo P

2006-03-12 19:21:25
4.   Bob Timmermann
And Gary Thorne agrees with Icaros.
2006-03-12 19:25:58
5.   Icaros
Is the Mexican first baseman who hit 20-some HRs for Las Vegas in 2004 on the team?

What was his name?

2006-03-12 19:53:43
6.   Bob Timmermann
That's Luis A. Garcia, who is the left fielder. He hit 32 HRs for Las Vegas in 04.

There's also a Luis C. Garcia on Mexico.

2006-03-12 20:18:24
7.   Bob Timmermann
48 degrees is the game time temperature. Sounds like a predominantly pro-Mexico crowd.
2006-03-12 20:22:55
8.   Icaros

I undersold him by about ten home runs. Sorry, Luis A.

2006-03-12 20:28:42
9.   Bob Timmermann
Let's see if Lee (SY variety) will want to catch up to Beltré in HRs.
2006-03-12 20:31:40
10.   Bob Timmermann
I feel so darn prophetic at times.
2006-03-12 20:32:56
11.   grandcosmo
7. Not a surprise as Mexicans probably outnumber Koreans 10 to 1 in SoCal.

Those team Mexico hats look pretty cool. I bet that they sell a lot of them this year. South Korea not so much.

2006-03-12 20:35:27
12.   Bob Timmermann
But the Korean fans at the game do not seem to be an insignificant number.
2006-03-12 20:38:50
13.   Bob Timmermann
Durazo and Choi are the DHs in the game. It's a sabermetric baseball fan's dream!
2006-03-12 20:59:45
14.   Bob Timmermann
The noise of the cheering here sounds very un-Anaheim like.
2006-03-12 21:05:14
15.   grandcosmo
Anaheim has been stricken with baseball fever for a number of years now.
2006-03-12 21:11:34
16.   Bob Timmermann
Yes, but it's not monkey-themed cheering. It doesn't sound like the 2002 roaring. It's far more rhythmic.

Arte Moreno must be loving Mexico playing in Anaheim.

2006-03-12 21:19:36
17.   Bob Timmermann
72 pitches for Lopez. 50 for Seo. Through four innings.
2006-03-12 21:20:21
18.   Bob Timmermann
Actually that's 4 IP for Seo, 3 IP for Lopez.

Dessens in to pitch.

2006-03-12 21:28:57
19.   Bob Timmermann
Jin Man Park, the Korean vacuum cleaner.
2006-03-12 21:44:21
20.   Bob Timmermann
Koo in to relieve now.
2006-03-12 22:08:07
21.   Bob Timmermann
Not much hitting tonight. 7 hits through 6 innings.
2006-03-12 22:10:02
22.   grandcosmo
Is Mexico the only country with a national font?
2006-03-12 22:17:17
23.   Bob Timmermann
I suppose they are since the Roman Empire collapsed and Times New Roman fell into the public domain.

The Swiss are trying to reclaim Helvetica.

2006-03-12 22:18:26
24.   Bob Timmermann
Ponche! Still 2-1 Korea.

I need to find out how to say "strikeout" in Korean.

2006-03-12 22:25:12
25.   Bob Timmermann
Babelfish tells me that strikeout in Korean is:


But I don't know if that is the baseball term or refers to typing something in strikeout format.

2006-03-12 22:26:00
26.   das411
Does anyone else think it's just unbelieveably cool to randomly turn on ESPN2 at 1 in the morning and see not just baseball, but Mexico vs Korea and their super-stylish uniforms? I thought Korea and China had cool hats but that Mexico font is pretty sharp...doesn't explain why all of the player names and everything are in English though, I would think foreign-language unis would be more appealing to those markets...
2006-03-12 22:30:15
27.   Bob Timmermann
I assume you mean why the Koreans don't have their names written in Korean on their unis.

The Japanese don't do that either even in their domestic season.

It's just not done. Japan did that before WWII, but ever since then, they've had uniforms that have the Roman alphabet and Arabic numerals.

Even Russia uses the Roman alphabet during international competitions now.

2006-03-12 22:40:15
28.   das411
Yeah but the old Soviet teams used to use Cyrillic and everything and they were the badassest thing in the world! I mean, c'mon Bob, are you gonna tell me that CCCP was not intimidating at all? And that you would not get the same effect from seeing unis in Korean, Japanese, Chinese, etc? It just seems odd that a tournament meant to sell the game worldwide has every player from every country wearing the same language.
2006-03-12 22:40:56
29.   grandcosmo
Actually I think it is incredibly cool to turn on HBO at 9:00 pm and see a new episode of The Sopranos.
2006-03-12 22:43:27
30.   Bob Timmermann
Oh, the CCCP was menacing. But the Korean and Japanese fans would wonder why their team's uniforms had names written in kanji or in the Korean alphabet on them.

They don't want to be "foreign". They want to be like the big leaguers.

The Dominican Republic uniforms read "Dominicana". They were the only team not to use the English version of their country.

México leaves off the accent mark.

2006-03-12 22:43:50
31.   Bob Timmermann


2006-03-12 22:44:17
32.   Bob Timmermann
Park and Kim warming up for Korea. Bong in to try to get the last out of the eighth.
2006-03-12 22:53:21
33.   Bob Timmermann
Cortes can't conquer the last hitter so Mexico will try to corner the market with Rincón.
2006-03-12 22:57:26
34.   Bob Timmermann
Two other teams did not use the English form of its country's name on the uniform.

The Dutch used "Nederland". The Italians used "Italia".

2006-03-12 22:59:33
35.   Garnered
Uh-oh, the new ace closer of the Korean team Park Chan-ho is coming in. it's over now fellas...
2006-03-12 23:02:12
36.   Garnered
oh and 삼진 (sam-jin) does indeed mean strikeout, just slightly different from "sam-shin" in Japanese for the same thing. "sam" means three.
2006-03-12 23:02:46
37.   das411
Since when does Jorge Cantu have the Jeff Kent porn 'stache?!??!?

And why does Vinny Castilla have that stupid C on his uniform? Doesn't he know how well that worked for John Franco and Barry Larkin?

2006-03-12 23:03:55
38.   Bob Timmermann
2006-03-12 23:04:47
39.   Bob Timmermann
Omar Vizquel was wearing a "C" too. And he lost a grounder in his shirt today.
2006-03-12 23:05:28
40.   Garnered
No problem. I've been living in Korea for the past 5 years so pass those questions my way anytime...
2006-03-12 23:07:23
41.   das411
Could CHP be channeling some Bob Stanley?
2006-03-12 23:07:52
42.   Garnered
Since Chan-ho's WBC turn as a closer he's enjoyed something of a renaissance in popularity back here. His stock had been in rapid decline for several seaasons to that point.
2006-03-12 23:08:29
43.   Bob Timmermann
This is something like a 1968 baseball game. Just a couple of blasts and not much else.
2006-03-12 23:09:28
44.   Bob Timmermann
Babelfish translated "Game Over" in Korean as "Game Over".
2006-03-12 23:09:30
45.   das411
Wow, frisbee slider and the WIN for Korea! What a great ending!!!!
2006-03-12 23:11:08
46.   Garnered
they might say that, or simply 끗 (ggeut) which roughly means the end. Great finish and the Korean dream continues!!
2006-03-12 23:11:29
47.   Linkmeister
42 If you think his stock had declined in Korea, you shoulda been in LA and Texas.
2006-03-12 23:12:33
48.   Garnered
I predict a big loss to the US and another instant classic against Japan for Team Korea...too close to call who will win the rematch though.
2006-03-12 23:13:03
49.   grandcosmo
I turned the sound back on the game just in time to hear Sutcliffe say that nobody expected Korea to beat Mexico tonight. He's an idiot.
2006-03-12 23:39:46
50.   capdodger
33 - Har Har.
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2006-03-12 23:54:49
51.   Xeifrank
Either Mexico's offense looked and is pathetic or Korea has some pretty awesome pitching. Most likely a combination of the two. The announcers said some pretty lame things as pointed out in post #49. The other one that caught my attention was something about the Korean bullpen/or pitching staff having an era of 1.00 in their first four games, without mentioning that the offenses of the PRC and ROC were half of that sample size.
vr, Xei
2006-03-13 00:04:35
52.   Ken Arneson
I've been pretty impressed with Korea's defense. Looks can be deceiving, but from the looks of things, their shortstop has some good range.
2006-03-13 00:40:44
53.   Bob Timmermann
Korea's pitchers look pretty good and they throw lots of strikes and have a very good defense behind them. Park looks to be an excellent shortstop and if Korea can make it to PETCO, its lack of power won't hurt them.

I'm liking my pick of Korea to advance. I think they can beat Japan again which is what it should take to make it to San Diego.

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