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WC 2006: Three point shot!
2006-06-02 16:14
by Bob Timmermann

A widely viewed YouTube video of the longest goal I've ever seen.

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2006-06-02 16:27:10
1.   Andrew Shimmin
I'm surprised it wasn't ruled offsides. It seems like every play in soccer is offsides.
2006-06-02 16:33:02
2.   Bob Timmermann
Since the ball was played out of Colombia's own end and no other player on Colombia touched it, it wasn't offsides.

Basically, you can't play the ball if it passed to you if you are the only player between the rest of the defense and the goalie.

2006-06-02 16:33:32
3.   Ken Arneson
In my indoor soccer league, it would have been whistled dead as soon as it bounced. There's a three-line pass rule, where the ball can't cross three lines (similar to ice hockey lines) in the air.
2006-06-02 16:34:46
4.   DXMachina
Nah, I checked. No one was offsides.

That's one heck of a tough bounce, although really, it wasn't all the tough a ball to stop. I'm pretty sure that even I could've blocked it (the goal is only 8' high). The keeper just misjudged it.

2006-06-02 16:35:07
5.   Ken Arneson
I should add, the three-line pass rule is the rule they have instead of the standard soccer offsides rule.
2006-06-02 16:36:14
6.   Bob Timmermann
It would have been very hard for a Colombian player to be offside on that play. The guy would have to have been camped out by the goal all day.

And if he wasn't involved in the play, it wouldn't have mattered anyway.

2006-06-02 16:40:15
7.   DXMachina
2.
Unless they've changed the rules, a player doesn't have to touch it to be declared offsides. Offsides is declared at the instant a player (in this case Martinez) plays the ball forward while offensive players are behind the defense.
2006-06-02 16:45:13
8.   Bob Timmermann
Don't some of the youth soccer leagues use a variation of the three lines? I know there are zones and such.
2006-06-02 16:46:08
9.   Bob Timmermann
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The offside player has to be "actively involved in the play."
2006-06-02 16:49:57
10.   DXMachina
9.
You're right. I was conflating being in an offside position with actually being called for it. The sad thing is that I coached soccer for 13 years, and I used to know that rule inside out..
2006-06-02 16:53:17
11.   Bob Timmermann
I was trying to make it simple for the less soccer-oriented among us.

Not that they are paying attention to this thread anymore.

I've tried to tell people why there is an offside rule and why it's necessary, but a lot of people don't believe me. They apparently just want to watch soccer where goalies punt the ball down the field all game.

2006-06-02 17:04:17
12.   Andrew Shimmin
11- The less soccer-oriented are still paying attention. We don't strive to know the look of that which bores, but we're a gritty bunch. And loyal.

I don't like the offsides rule because it takes away fast breaks. I like fast breaks. Plus, it seems a little pansy-ish. Oh, you weren't ready for the other team to try to score? Well, that's not fair. . .

2006-06-02 17:05:38
13.   DXMachina
Except... I can recall a game where one of my wings took a shot that the keeper blocked. The rebound went to a midfielder who shot it back and scored. Or so we thought. All of a sudden I see the linesman pointing his flag at the wing, who had fallen down after her original shot. The defense had moved up enough that she was offside when the scoring shot was taken. The ref called her offsides, and negated the goal. I remember being incensed at the time. So either the ref was in error, or trying to get up means "actively involved in the play." :)
2006-06-02 17:24:25
14.   Bob Timmermann
Obviously the defense made a persuasive case by raising their hands.
2006-06-02 17:26:07
15.   Kayaker7
That was even worse than David "Safe Hands" Seaman's fluff on Ronaldinho's floated free kick.
2006-06-02 17:50:06
16.   Zak
Polish goalkeepers have a Hall of Shame where they can put that goal. Of course, reigning HOFer, Jerzy Dudek is the king of the-bloody-shot-tricked-through-my-legs.
2006-06-02 17:52:54
17.   Zak
13 That play would not be considered offises anymore. There was a rule change a year or two back, where the offsides player has to be actively involved in the play.
2006-06-02 18:13:26
18.   capdodger
12 - Even with the offsides rule and trap there are breakaways in soccer. They just require perfect timing.

Alas, soccer, even at its highest levels is not played by robots.

2006-06-02 18:15:10
19.   Sandus
As far as I know, you can still score with a player offsides, provided that he doesn't touch the ball. If the shot comes off the keeper and back out, however, if the offense recovers the ball, then it's offsides.
2006-06-02 19:40:06
20.   deadteddy8
That one was all on the Polish keeper. He wasn't being unfairly drawn out by the opposition, so it wasn't offside, even if there were players behind the other defenders. It's not just that they weren't actively part of the play, but that they didn't draw anyone's attention.
http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesAndRegulations/FIFALawsOfTheGame/Postings/2002/05/12115.htm

Also, here's another look at the goal on YouTube...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEkaGEx3qDc

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