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WC 2006 Match Chat: Group B finale, noon PT

2006-06-20 11:30

by Bob Timmermann

Paraguay vs. Trinidad & Tobago at Kaiserslautern

Sweden vs. England at Cologne

England is in the second round and Sweden can join them with a win or tie. The Swedes have had good luck against England. England has not beaten Sweden since May 22, 1968 and in 11 matches, the Swedes have not lost to England. The two teams met for the first time in the World Cup in 2002 in Japan and played a 1-1 draw. Wayne Rooney is supposed to be back in the lineup for England. Zlatan Ibrahimovic should be out for Sweden.

Paraguay has been eliminated and T&T will need a big win (three goals or more should do) combined with a Sweden loss to move on.

Little known historical fact: England (the UK) was at war with Sweden from 1810-1812 although the two nations never fought against each other. It was a side effect of the war between Sweden and Russia over Finland in 1808-1809. It was the era of the Napoleonic Wars. Nations changed sides frequently in that time.

The winner of Group B plays Ecuador on June 25 in Stuttgart. The runner up faces Germany in Munich on June 24.

Poached from the BBC website:

1979 - DREW 0-0 (friendly)
1986 LOST 1-0 (friendly)
1988 DREW 0-0 (WC qualifier)
1989 DREW 0-0 (WC qualifier)
1992 LOST 2-1 (Euro 92)
1995 DREW 3-3 (friendly)
1998 LOST 2-1 (Euro qual)
1999 DREW 0-0 (Euro qual)
2001 DREW 1-1 (friendly)
2002 DREW 1-1 (WC 2002)
2004 LOST 1-0 (friendly)

Comments

2006-06-20 11:40:46

1. Sam DC

Will Ken allow English to be spoken in this thread, do you think?

2006-06-20 11:45:44

2. Bob Timmermann

I was going to try write something in Swedish, but that's not one of Babelfish's available languages.

2006-06-20 11:52:00

3. Sam DC

I'm not stalking you Bob, but this cracked me up: "I'm not that mean!"

2006-06-20 11:54:55

4. Bob Timmermann

I debated about posting the Dan Shaughnessy mash note about Robinson. I opted not to. Just couldn't find the words.

2006-06-20 11:59:34

5. Sam DC

Why is Shaughnessy "CHB" (or did I misunderstand that reference)?

2006-06-20 12:00:27

6. Bob Timmermann

Curly
Haired
Boy

2006-06-20 12:04:56

7. Bob Timmermann

Kelvin Jack is back for the Soca Warriors. Denying me the chance to ever say again "Shaka Hislop!"

2006-06-20 12:07:21

8. Bob Timmermann

The FIFA Matchcast for England-Sweden has gotten more messed up than MLB Gameday after a play with two errors in it.

2006-06-20 12:16:29

9. Greg Brock

Crouch says no robot dance unless Englad wins the cup. That is unacceptable.

2006-06-20 12:17:24

10. Bob Timmermann

I guess there won't be a robot dance then will there?

2006-06-20 12:18:55

11. Sam DC

6 Sometimes that insider internet stuff is much less clever than one would like.

2006-06-20 12:26:28

12. Bob Timmermann

11
I'm retiring from the nickname business after "Ghame Over". I know when to quit while I'm still on the cutting edge of pop culture!

2006-06-20 12:27:31

13. Bob Timmermann

Paraguay again helps those who cannot help themselves.

2006-06-20 12:31:44

14. Bob Timmermann

The FIFA Matchcast guy gave the "own goal" to the wrong team!

2006-06-20 12:34:32

15. Greg Brock

That was one of the most beautiful volleys I've ever seen.

2006-06-20 12:34:51

16. Bob Timmermann

Now all T&T needs to do is score FOUR goals.

2006-06-20 12:35:38

17. Greg Brock

14 I was going to say something, but I decided to let you work that one out on your own.

2006-06-20 12:36:12

18. Bob Timmermann

Greg is already getting ready his collection of Galapagos Islands jokes ready for an England-Ecuador match.

2006-06-20 12:37:02

19. Bob Timmermann

Let's just say the FIFA Matchcast guys did not bring their "A" games today.

2006-06-20 12:38:42

20. Vishal

england looks really good :(

2006-06-20 12:39:49

21. yankee23

20 and that England goal was great, even if I am rooting for Svenska.

2006-06-20 12:40:58

22. Greg Brock

18 I was going to save them for Ecuador vs. Charles Darwin Society in the semifinals.

2006-06-20 12:47:08

23. Greg Brock

Dissapointing first half for the leaping Swedes. I expected a lot more.

2006-06-20 12:48:10

24. Bob Timmermann

The Swedes appear ready to back into the second round and a match against Germany.

2006-06-20 13:00:40

25. Ken Arneson

Not watching the game near a computer, so this halftime comment will have to suffice.

Wayne Rooney is causing all kinds of problems for the Swedish defense. They're double teaming him, and two men don't seem to be enough to control him. He looks like Lawrence Taylor back in the eighties, where it takes three linemen to keep him under control. That's opening up some holes behind the defensive line, where Cole scored his goal.

And the goal they allowed was just a totally awesome goal. So I'm not all that disappointed in Sweden's play. If you're getting beat by great players making great plays, you don't have much to feel bad about.

Just have to hope that Sven takes Rooney out after about 60 minutes, and then the Swedes can open things up, and maybe get a lucky goal or two.

2006-06-20 13:06:37

26. Greg Brock

Tjog

2006-06-20 13:07:51

27. Greg Brock

The English side has to be absolutely stunned right now.

2006-06-20 13:09:19

28. Bob Timmermann

Goal #2000 in World Cup history.

2006-06-20 13:11:11

29. Bob Timmermann

The intoxicating beat of the steel drums should be headed back to the Caribbean soon.

2006-06-20 13:18:57

30. Bob Timmermann

Goal #1 was scored by Lucien Laurent of France in Montevideo, Uruguay on July 13, 1930 against Mexico.

2006-06-20 13:20:37

31. Greg Brock

If the Swedes pull this out, the heavily anticipated "German hooligans vs. British hooligans" match will come a little earlier than expected.

2006-06-20 13:23:31

32. Bob Timmermann

I would have to do less research to find out the last time Germany and England were at war with each other.

2006-06-20 13:29:19

33. Greg Brock

Rooney's a very strong player, but it's difficult to buy into a guy that looks like he should be prancing around the Shire.

2006-06-20 13:32:27

34. Bob Timmermann

I really wish the Soca Warriors would get a goal. Just for fun.

2006-06-20 13:42:16

35. Bob Timmermann

T&T is alive again. They still need to score four goals though.

2006-06-20 13:42:54

36. Greg Brock

Sorry Ken

2006-06-20 13:44:34

37. Bob Timmermann

Every 38 years, you can count on England beating Sweden.

2006-06-20 13:46:32

38. Greg Brock

Or not

2006-06-20 13:49:34

39. Greg Brock

Somebody needs to tell the English fans they've exceeded their allocated number of God Save the Queen chants

2006-06-20 13:49:54

40. Bob Timmermann

Um, you first.

2006-06-20 13:50:49

41. Greg Brock

40 I said SOMEBODY, not me.

2006-06-20 13:51:24

42. Bob Timmermann

Germany vs. Sweden and England vs. Ecuador.

I hope Stuttgart appreciates all the English fans. Stuttgart, now there's a wild town. Maybe the English can get drunk and tear up a VW plant.

2006-06-20 14:26:50

43. Ken Arneson

They got a lucky goal or two, just like I said! The streak is still alive!

Rooney looked like he ran out of gas in the second half. Wasn't nearly the little energetic pest he was in the first half. England didn't put nearly as much pressure on in the second half as they did in the first.

Having to face Germany will be tough, but could be worse. At least Brazil will be in the other half of the bracket.

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