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World Series Game 4.1 Chat
2006-10-26 15:00
by Bob Timmermann

Live from 8th Street and Spruce!

Today's World Series fact: Christian Doppler, identifier of the Doppler Effect, died in 1853, and never saw Doppler radar in effect.

Comments (116)
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2006-10-26 16:17:50
1.   D4P
Is it just me, or does the weather radar look pretty good for the game tonight...?
2006-10-26 16:53:26
2.   bobsbrother
From where I'm sitting in the second deck, it looks pretty good to me, though the temperature has dropped markedly in the past 15 minutes. The thermometer here says 40 degrees. Both teams took bp and the tarp has been off for hours. The grounds crew is hosing down the infield as I type. So I'm going to say, Game On!
2006-10-26 16:59:17
3.   dzzrtRatt
I think it's just you. I'm not near a TV, but the satellite map on shows a huge front plopped right over St. Louis. I doubt they can play tomorrow night either.

Game 4&5 in St. Louis this weekend when the weather looks better. Monday looks good for Detroit, but then rain "returns to the forecast" Tuesday and Wednesday.

If this series goes 7 games, the last game might be as late as Thursday, November 2nd. But I figure by Monday, Fox will be demanding the games be moved to the daytime so it can proceed with "Prison Break," "House" and other shows its demographic actually watches.

2006-10-26 17:10:49
4.   D4P
The radar I'm looking at doesn't show anything over St. Louis...
2006-10-26 17:12:52
5.   bobsbrother
That differs sharply from a) the radar I've seen on and b) my own eyes. They're starting this game. Suppan and Bonderman are in the bullpens throwing, and rain does not appear imminent. This game is starting at 7:27 Central time.
2006-10-26 17:13:16
6.   Linkmeister
Since bobsbrother is reporting from the scene...
2006-10-26 17:17:21
7.   D4P
I use weatherunderground as well.

I hope Bob (aka bobsbrother's brother) didn't go to the movies...

2006-10-26 17:31:30
8.   Bluebleeder87
so are we a day late & a buck short?
2006-10-26 17:40:56
9.   Bluebleeder87
Bonderman seems to be locating his fastball very well today
2006-10-26 17:47:18
10.   Bluebleeder87
i new Suppan was do for a bad start!!
2006-10-26 18:14:04
11.   Bob Timmermann
Joe Buck is at the game, so we are not a buck short.
2006-10-26 18:38:57
12.   Andrew Shimmin
David Eckstein is short, but not by a buck.
2006-10-26 18:49:27
13.   D4P
Is it wrong to dislike David Eckstein...?
2006-10-26 18:50:20
14.   Bob Timmermann
It's punishible by law in 34 states.
2006-10-26 18:54:22
15.   D4P
Red states, no doubt...
2006-10-26 18:58:07
16.   D4P
I wish the Cardinals would go back to putting Encuhnarcion in the cleanup spot
2006-10-26 19:00:45
17.   Bluebleeder87
Bonderman is not keeping the ball down in this inning
2006-10-26 19:02:19
18.   Cliff Corcoran
15 Well, there aren't 34 blue states.
2006-10-26 19:02:35
19.   Bob Timmermann
I believe if we were living in Missouri, they would be showing the Jeff Suppan anti stem cell research commercial now.

I think Suppan's position would be stronger, if he hadn't appeared with Scooter earlier. I think Scooter is not a good "thing" to have on your side.

2006-10-26 19:03:10
20.   D4P
Well, there aren't 34 blue states

That's for sure

2006-10-26 19:06:37
21.   D4P
I heard a rumor that Scooter is more popular than Michael J. Fox
2006-10-26 19:07:23
22.   Andrew Shimmin
The anti-prop 87 ad out here used the construction "Do the math." I'm powerless not to vote against it, now.
2006-10-26 19:10:36
23.   Andrew Shimmin
By the way, if you wrote a ballot initiative, bankrolled it, and spent countless hours of your life trying to get it enacted in to law, how irritated would you be that it got called prop 87? It's like the guy trying to fill Foley's seat who has to convince people to mark the box next to Foley's name.
2006-10-26 19:12:29
24.   Bob Timmermann
The initiative process: Democracy created by people who just sign something so they can walk into their local Target store in peace.
2006-10-26 19:14:31
25.   Bluebleeder87
Pondge not showing any patience there
2006-10-26 19:16:23
26.   Bluebleeder87
by the way Bob i read you're peace "The life and times of Harry Kingman" very cool read
2006-10-26 19:19:24
27.   Bob Timmermann
Thank you. I worked a long time doing the research on that.
2006-10-26 19:22:35
28.   Andrew Shimmin
24- I was one of those people, for one day!
2006-10-26 19:23:26
29.   Bluebleeder87
nice come back inning by Bonderman the Tigers need to score more runs though.
2006-10-26 19:24:19
30.   Bob Timmermann
You didn't get my John Hancock.
2006-10-26 19:26:35
31.   Andrew Shimmin
30- If I had, it would have been disallowed. Wrong county.
2006-10-26 19:27:53
32.   Bob Timmermann
I either blow off the petition gatherers or tell them I'm Canadian.
2006-10-26 19:30:09
33.   D4P
I just don't go to Target
2006-10-26 19:31:41
34.   Bluebleeder87
i do my shopping at Ross my self, "quality clothing at competitive pricess"
2006-10-26 19:32:24
35.   Andrew Shimmin
D4P grows his own vegetables in a communal garden and his wife knits hemp into clothing for him. The only commerce he perpetrates is buying bottled water.
2006-10-26 19:34:00
36.   D4P
The only commerce he perpetrates is buying bottled water

But I'm trying to cut back. My car runs on hydrogen, and I'm collecting the water vapor exhaust for domestic uses...

2006-10-26 19:36:31
37.   Bob Timmermann
I hate it when someone occupies a higher moral ground than me when it comes to cars.
2006-10-26 19:39:50
38.   D4P
Kneel before Zod!

(Actually, our 16-year old car runs on gasoline...)

2006-10-26 19:40:55
39.   Bob Timmermann
16 years ago, I had a 2-year old car!
2006-10-26 19:41:06
40.   Bluebleeder87
i kind of like that walk it sets up a potential DP
2006-10-26 19:41:35
41.   Bob Timmermann
It was easy to read Jeremy Bonderman's lips when Leyland came out to pull him.

A very simple "What the f---?"

2006-10-26 19:42:17
42.   Bluebleeder87
i couldn't drive 16 years ago
2006-10-26 19:44:32
43.   Bob Timmermann
Aaron Miles isn't a great DP candidate.

He's probably more of a K candidate.

2006-10-26 19:45:46
44.   Bluebleeder87
i didn't know how many flame throwers Detriot had wow.
2006-10-26 19:46:23
45.   Bob Timmermann
I think everybody on Detroit throws hard except for Rogers and Jones.
2006-10-26 19:47:04
46.   Bluebleeder87
that was just not fair
2006-10-26 19:47:52
47.   Andrew Shimmin
I didn't know how many flame throwers Detroit had

Too many. They need to trade us a couple for Mark Hendrickson. The Tigers need that kind of a weapon in their arsenal.

2006-10-26 19:50:48
48.   Bob Timmermann
Wow, I feel so prescient!
2006-10-26 19:50:54
49.   Bluebleeder87
end him with HEAT!!
2006-10-26 19:51:11
50.   Steve
spent countless hours of your life

One of the neat things about the initiative process is that you hardly have to spend any time on it at all. How much time does it take to write those three extra zeroes on the check?

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2006-10-26 19:51:58
51.   Bluebleeder87

stone him!!

2006-10-26 19:53:38
52.   Bluebleeder87

tossing salad is Hendy's middle name

2006-10-26 19:54:36
53.   Andrew Shimmin
50- My only frame of reference is Ward Connerly, who seems to spend much of his life pushing initiatives. I assumed they were all like that, which does seem a little dumb, in retrospect.

Although, countless could mean zero as easily as too many to measure. . .

2006-10-26 19:56:03
54.   Andrew Shimmin
52- Um, what? Is he hoping to earn a spot on The Wire?
2006-10-26 19:56:26
55.   regfairfield
What's the deal with the do-rag under the cap? Preston Wilson and Fernando Rodney do it.
2006-10-26 19:58:26
56.   Bob Timmermann
Sounds like a question for the Uni Watch blog linked over on the sidebar.

I recall Royce Clayton as being one of the first players to wear one. Ronnie Belliard wears one also.

2006-10-26 20:02:18
57.   Bluebleeder87
tosing salad is "slang" for throwing slow.
2006-10-26 20:06:00
58.   D4P
And what's the deal with all the silly hats in the stands? Those zany Cardinal fans...!
2006-10-26 20:07:11
59.   Bob Timmermann
Today's World Series fact: One of my uncles was in the same high school class as Red Schoendienst. My father went to high school with one of Red's younger brothers.

Pretty much all of the Schoendiensts had red hair.

2006-10-26 20:08:07
60.   Steve
The initiative process is remarkably mechanistic -- money = access to key petition gathering businesses = place on the ballot. Then they all fail in November.
2006-10-26 20:10:07
61.   Bluebleeder87

that's pretty cool

2006-10-26 20:11:27
62.   Bob Timmermann
Curtis Granderson meet Curt Flood, Mr. Flood meet Mr. Granderson.
2006-10-26 20:11:27
63.   Bluebleeder87
wow what a break for the Cards
2006-10-26 20:11:28
64.   D4P
Oh yeah? Well, Red Schoendienst was my uncle...
2006-10-26 20:14:12
65.   Bluebleeder87
what kind of c__p is that!!!
2006-10-26 20:14:15
66.   D4P
Chalk up another run to scrapiness
2006-10-26 20:14:31
67.   Bob Timmermann
Those two last two plays will make more people say they hate this year's World Series again.
2006-10-26 20:15:32
68.   Bluebleeder87
i guess there pitchers are cursed.
2006-10-26 20:16:57
69.   Bluebleeder87
i kind of feel bad for Detriots pitcher he seemed rattled from that Granderson play
2006-10-26 20:17:11
70.   D4P
I hate this year's World Series aga...oh, never mind
2006-10-26 20:18:04
71.   Bluebleeder87

i'll take that back, i shouldn't feel bad for a guy that throws major heat

2006-10-26 20:18:09
72.   Andrew Shimmin
I don't just hate this Series, I think it's fixed. Ironically, Kenny Rogers is Shoeless Joe.
2006-10-26 20:20:29
73.   D4P
I think it's fixed

By which you mean it's broken

2006-10-26 20:20:34
74.   regfairfield
I'm stil attempting to wrap my head around the fact that LaRussa pinch hit for Duncan against a righty.
2006-10-26 20:22:43
75.   Bluebleeder87
By which you mean it's broken

if it ain't broke don't fix it? [crickets]

2006-10-26 20:23:19
76.   bobsbrother
By the way, Schoendienst is still alive - and quite spry I might add - so it should be "is my uncle" rather than "was my uncle," unless, of course, you've been disowned. His niece sang God Bless America at the seventh inning stretch. and Ozzie Smith's son sang the anthem. It's family night at Busch!
2006-10-26 20:23:27
77.   Bob Timmermann
When a man wants a bunt, he wants a bunt.
2006-10-26 20:24:37
78.   Bluebleeder87
is the office a rerun today?
2006-10-26 20:25:43
79.   Bob Timmermann
I said One of my uncles was in the same high school class as Red Schoendienst.

I believe that statement is true and gramatically correct.

Oh, an you should call your oldest brother tomorrow.

2006-10-26 20:25:57
80.   Bluebleeder87
i kind of like tonights game.
2006-10-26 20:28:36
81.   bobsbrother
I was referring to 64.
2006-10-26 20:28:54
82.   Bob Timmermann
Not very interesting tidbit. On Sunday night, I rode a shuttle bus back to my parking lot to pick up my car at LAX with "Standoff" star Ron Livingston.
2006-10-26 20:29:05
83.   Andrew Shimmin
79- He was taking to D4P. Egomaniac.
2006-10-26 20:29:28
84.   Bob Timmermann
I more used to be criticized by members of my own family.
2006-10-26 20:30:03
85.   D4P
Ron Livingston

Is that "Peter" of Office Space lore...?

2006-10-26 20:30:14
86.   Andrew Shimmin
78- Yes. Of the season premiere, I think.
2006-10-26 20:31:31
87.   Bluebleeder87
i swear it mind boggles my mind that Podge still has good wheels for a catcher
2006-10-26 20:32:33
88.   Bluebleeder87

this is the first time i ever watch the show.

2006-10-26 20:33:18
89.   Bob Timmermann
Yes, that guy.

He was wearing a White Sox cap. He left his car with a valet. I left mine outside. My car was very dirty.

2006-10-26 20:37:16
90.   das411
87- Pudge does seem....faster...than he was a few years ago...

Haha nice local news sign, and did we just get through a commercial break with NO Mellencamp??

2006-10-26 20:43:31
91.   D4P
I hate that stupid curveball. You'd think the hitters would be used to it by now...
2006-10-26 20:46:36
92.   Bluebleeder87

from what i remember he stole something like 26 bases a couple of years back

2006-10-26 20:56:54
93.   Bob Timmermann
Craig Monroe fielded that ball like he was Lou Brock.

People forget that Lou Brock was Lonnie Smith in the field.

2006-10-26 21:01:02
94.   Andrew Shimmin
Two big doubles for Eckstein. Doesn't prove the Series is fixed, but, well. . .
2006-10-26 21:01:29
95.   Bluebleeder87
i don't like Eckstein today
2006-10-26 21:03:19
96.   D4P
I swear, these hitters act like they've never seen a curveball before.

ATTENTION DETROIT HITTERS: If the pitch from Wainwright starts at your eye level, it's going to drop down into the strike zone.

2006-10-26 21:05:18
97.   Bluebleeder87
why would Bochy take the S.F. gig?
2006-10-26 21:06:16
98.   Bluebleeder87
i hope Weaver gets pounced tomorrow!!
2006-10-26 21:06:19
99.   D4P
Ugh. Detroit should have won that game.
2006-10-26 21:07:23
100.   Bob Timmermann
So when is Game 5? Friday? Saturday? Sunday?
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2006-10-26 21:10:00
101.   Bluebleeder87
tomorrow i think no?
2006-10-26 21:11:04
102.   D4P
When is Game 7?
2006-10-26 21:11:07
103.   Bob Timmermann
Tomorrow's forecast for St. Louis:

# Tomorrow: Cloudy with rain likely. A thundershower is possible as well, especially in the morning. High near 50F. Winds NNE at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 90%. Rainfall around a half an inch.
# Tomorrow night: Rain early. Decreasing clouds late. Low 41F. Winds NW at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 80%.

2006-10-26 21:14:45
104.   Icaros
Did you know that little David Eckstein's bones are made of pure fairy dust?
2006-10-26 21:16:23
105.   D4P
Mickey Hatcher >>> David Eckstein
2006-10-26 21:20:08
106.   Bluebleeder87

you said fairy

2006-10-26 21:20:13
107.   das411
Chris Myers > David Eckstein.

Which is kind of frightening.

2006-10-26 21:20:28
108.   Bluebleeder87
Mickey Hatcher was taller though
2006-10-26 21:21:05
109.   Bob Timmermann
I used to post up Chris Myers all the time in intramural basketball.
2006-10-26 21:23:59
110.   Bluebleeder87
David Eckstein is the little baseball player that could, but today i disliked him very much
2006-10-26 21:30:37
111.   Bluebleeder87

tipical midwest weather

2006-10-26 21:40:40
112.   fordprefect
I'd never noticed LaRussa exhibiting so much emotion in the dugout before this series. Do you think he's beginning to smell it now?
2006-10-26 21:45:16
113.   Bluebleeder87

i hope Detriot thinks other wise

2006-10-26 21:57:25
114.   Xeifrank
Verlander vs Weaver in game 5?
Anybody surprised that Rogers wasn't moved up to game 5, especially now that they are down 3-1. What if tomorrow is a rainout? Would Leyland dare move Rogers up to game 5? I guess the logic against doing it would be that Verlander, Rogers and probably Robertson would all have to win a game anyways.
vr, Xei
2006-10-26 22:01:47
115.   Bluebleeder87

this game was had i can't believe Detriots D man!!

2006-10-26 22:08:11
116.   Xeifrank
115. Yep, defense. My simulator (1000 game sample size) had game 4 as a tossup and in the end it pretty much was, but you are right that Detroit's defense (once again) let them down. vr, Xei

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