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Why I believe they're playing college football today! Open chat thread
2006-11-18 08:00
by Bob Timmermann

You can discuss it here. Games listed are in no particular order after the first two.

Michigan vs. Ohio State, 12:30 pm PT
I've heard about this one. A trip to Glendale is on the line. Presumably the one in Arizona. Michigan leads alltime 57-39-1

Cal at USC, 5 pm PT
For the Pac-10 championship. USC leads alltime 58-30-5. If the Bears win, they go to Pasadena (presumably in California) on January 1. If the Trojans win, who knows where they go: Pasadena, Glendale, Eagle Rock, Monrovia, Baldwin Park, Colton?

Auburn at Alabama in the Iron Bowl at 12:30 pm PT
The loser gets anemia! Alabama leads alltime 38-31-1

Indiana at Purdue at 9 am PT for the Old Oaken Bucket
It's just a cool nickname for a trophy. Purdue leads 67-35-6.

Washington at Washington State at 3:45 pm PT for the Apple Cup
The only Pac-10 rivalry game played today. Washington leads 63-29-6. The Cougars are bucking for that Emerald Bowl bid.

Illinois at Northwestern at 10 am PT for something
Bragging rights to the state of Illinois. The Illini lead 51-43-5

Western Carolina at Florida at 9 am PT
Western Carolina is in North Carolina. East Carolina is in North Carolina too. However, South Carolina is still in South Carolina. This is the first meeting of this storied rivalry.

Army at Notre Dame at 11:30 am PT
God or your country. You decide. God leads 36-8-4

UCLA at Arizona State at 7:15 pm PT
Well, I'll watch. The Hawai'i Bowl bid is on the line. Possibly. UCLA leads 14-7-1.

San Jose State at Hawai'i at 8:05 pm PT
Colt Brennan has a Heisman battle that's as quixotic as my battle to get rid of the double error. Spartans lead the 'Bows 15-13-1 alltime.

Rutgers at Cincinnati at 4:45 pm PT
Wow, this is actually important! Rutgers leads 7-3-1.

Buffalo at Wisconsin at 9 am PT
2/3 of Camp Randall will be drunk by the second quarter. The other 1/3 will already have passed out. First ... meeting ... ever!

Yale at Harvard at 9 am PT
A Harvard win and a Princeton loss to Dartmouth would create a 3-way tie for the Ivy League title. The Ivy League doesn't use tiebreakers. They're too good for that. Yale leads 64-50-8.

Oregon State at Stanford at 12:30 pm PT
Jon can come out of hiding on Saturdays now. Cardinal lead 47-22-3, but the Beavers have won 6 of the last 9.

Virginia Tech at Wake Forest at 4 pm PT
The Demon Deacons lead the ACC Atlantic Division, which differs from the Coastal Division in some subtle way. Hokies lead the series 21-11-1. Wake Forest hasn't won in this series since 1983.

Arizona at Oregon at 12:30 pm PT
Arizona tries to get in the Hawai'i Bowl mix with a win. Ducks lead the series 19-12.

New Mexico at BYU at 1 pm PT
In honor of my devoted MWC football fan reader(s). BYU clinches the MWC with a win. Lobos looking for a spot in the New Mexico Bowl. Cougars lead the series 40-14-1.

Iowa at Minnesota at 9 am PT
Floyd of Rosedale is at stake. Minnesota leads alltime 58-39-2.

And the rest!

All time records from College Football Data Warehouse.

A BBC writer finds it all very amusing.

Comments (304)
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2006-11-18 09:08:54
1.   ABreck
Sweet Sioux Tomahawk for NU.

I think transporting the cigar store indian may have blown up the NCAA PC police

2006-11-18 09:17:32
2.   Bob Timmermann
JoLonn Dunbar of BC has returned two fumbles for TDs in the first 3:08 of the game at home against Maryland.

Only 3 others D-1A players have had two fumble recoveries for a TD in one game.

2006-11-18 09:43:34
3.   Bob Timmermann
ABC/ESPN is calling this week "Rivalry Week" and advertising the USC/Cal game this week.

UCLA and Stanford are wondering what they are? Vegetable lasagna?

2006-11-18 09:52:40
4.   Greg Brock
Dirk Koetter vs. Karl Dorrell.
One man must be victorious.
Job Security...

UCLA vs. ASU in the Mutual of Omaha "Don't Get Fired Bowl"

2006-11-18 09:56:48
5.   Bob Timmermann
FSN is allowing me the privilege of watching Baylor play for the second straight week.

I'll be watching the less dopey ESPN games.

2006-11-18 09:58:19
6.   Greg Brock
5 Harvard vs. Yale on WGN!

It's all tied up at 7.

2006-11-18 10:01:15
7.   Bob Timmermann
BC has a banner up in their stadium honoring the team's appearance in the Carquest Bowl in 1994.
2006-11-18 10:03:12
8.   Greg Brock
Well, it only took me about ten minutes to post a football comment in the wrong window.

Enjoy the Simpsons quote over at Dodger Thoughts.

{Bangs head on desk}

2006-11-18 10:07:12
9.   Bob Timmermann
Even though Charlie Steiner grew up on Long Island, he graduated from college at Bradley.
2006-11-18 10:08:45
10.   Greg Brock
Maybe his schtick played in Peoria...


2006-11-18 10:11:00
11.   Greg Brock
Amazingly, the Yale cheerleaders do not seem to stack up to the cheerleaders of the Pacific 10 conference.

The term "stack up" was not used with any double entendre intended.

I swear.

2006-11-18 10:12:14
12.   Linkmeister
The real story line for SJS-UH is that the guy who holds the record for most wins at the school (Dick Tomey, who also holds the same record at Arizona) returns to coach against the guy who's chasing him and is behind by two or three wins (June Jones).

Brennan's got the stats, particularly when you realize he hasn't even played in the 4th quarter for about a month, but quixotic about describes his and the school's hopes for Heisman consideration.

2006-11-18 10:13:49
13.   Bob Timmermann
They don't even show the UH games in LA anymore on FSN. I miss those games. They were so much fun to watch.

God bless Jim Leahey!

2006-11-18 10:15:55
14.   Greg Brock
I loved the Hawaii games on FSN.
2006-11-18 10:20:40
15.   Greg Brock
Yale leads 17-7.

Liverpool and Middlesborough are scoreless starting the second half.

Manchester United vs. Chelsea next week. Set your TV's to "awesome" @ 8:00am PST.

2006-11-18 10:20:42
16.   Bob Timmermann
Meanwhile in West Lafayette, a Purdue runner gains about 25 yards, but an Indiana player knocks the ball loose. It rolls another 10 yards and a Hoosier back runs it back. He breaks two tackles and is poised to go in around the 15. A Purdue wideout chases him down and punches the ball out of his hand the ball rolls into the end zone.

Touchback for Purdue!

2006-11-18 10:21:34
17.   Linkmeister
Hey, they don't get watched in person out here, so why should they be shown on TV in LA?

(OK, that's not quite accurate, but they've been struggling to draw 30,000 fans at the games for a while; there's all manner of hand-wringing about this. My argument is the usual one: too many other entertainment choices, the games are on PPV, there are only 8,000 parking stalls, the new statewide smoking ban means you can't smoke in your seat, the ticket prices are too high, and the drunks-to-family ratio is too high.)

2006-11-18 10:23:15
18.   Bob Timmermann
The official description of that play:

J. Taylor rushed to the left for 26 yard gain. J. Taylor fumbled. T. Porter recovered fumble and returned for 52 yards. T. Porter fumbled. J. Standeford recovered fumble

But Standeford didn't recover the fumble. It rolled out of the end zone.

2006-11-18 10:24:57
19.   Bob Timmermann
You can't smoke in your seat at any sporting event in California and that hasn't hurt attendance.

The parking and drunks-to-family ratio are probably better reasons. And I still think high school football is more popular in Hawai'i than college, especially since the best Hawai'i high schoolers go to the Mainland to play.

2006-11-18 10:29:38
20.   Greg Brock
20-7 Yale.

Handsome Dan is a happy bulldog.

2006-11-18 11:01:03
21.   Bob Timmermann
I think ESPN is really pushing the countdown clock to the game in Columbus a wee bit much.
2006-11-18 11:29:42
22.   Bob Timmermann
Miami is losing 14-0 at Virginia and will likely not make a bowl game.

This is the worst news since Frank Robinson's ouster!

2006-11-18 11:48:09
23.   Greg Brock
34-7 Yale. There is much rejoicing in New Haven.

Well, certain parts of New Haven.

Most of New Haven is probably indifferent.

2006-11-18 11:51:16
24.   Greg Brock
Harvard scores to make it 34-13.

They go for two. You can guess what happened, Bob...

2006-11-18 11:53:06
25.   Bob Timmermann
Notre Dame is wearing green uniforms today. Apparently they need that extra boost when playing Army.

Charlie Weis is my college football equivalent of Frank Robinson.

2006-11-18 11:54:27
26.   Greg Brock
Oh, no, I'm not getting into a Notre Dame conversation this week...
2006-11-18 11:57:58
27.   Bob Timmermann
Army picks off Brady Quinn. That was Army's fourth interception of the season.

I guess the infantry isn't good at defensing aerial attacks.

2006-11-18 12:11:32
28.   Bob Timmermann
Army leads 3-0 in the first!

Declare victory and get out!

2006-11-18 12:12:29
29.   Greg Brock
28 That comment is appropriate on so many levels...
2006-11-18 12:14:31
30.   Greg Brock
The slippery green jerseys strike again.
2006-11-18 12:15:18
31.   yankee23
MSU up 7-3 over UM near the end of the first...
2006-11-18 12:18:28
32.   Greg Brock
Montana/Montana St.?
2006-11-18 12:19:03
33.   yankee23
you got it. it's actually a pretty good rivalry.
2006-11-18 12:19:35
34.   Greg Brock
The River Runs Through It Bowl...
2006-11-18 12:19:44
35.   Bob Timmermann
Are those Ms for Montana?
2006-11-18 12:20:20
36.   Bob Timmermann
Greg Brock knows his codes better than I. He must have had cryptography training.
2006-11-18 12:21:07
37.   yankee23
Actually, they title it "The Brawl of the Wild", though nobody refers to it as such. In Bozeman, it's Cat-Griz, in Missoula, it's Griz-Cat. We're very original up here...
2006-11-18 12:22:03
38.   yankee23
In response to Greg's DT post:

"Are you sure this is Boston?"
"Yeah, look, there's Harvard."
"But that's just a barn!"
"Oooh, somebody went to Yale."

2006-11-18 12:22:12
39.   Greg Brock
My file on yankee23 says he likes Big Sky football. It was a short leap from there...
2006-11-18 12:23:12
40.   Bob Timmermann
Does Army gets its cheerleaders from the USMA? Because the ones I've seen have long hair, which doesn't seem very cadet-like.
2006-11-18 12:26:23
41.   Bob Timmermann
A ground level shot of the field at Notre Dame stadium reveals that if you played golf there and the ball landed there, you would need a lofted club to get your ball out of that stuff.
2006-11-18 12:26:49
42.   yankee23
39 Does your file tell you which MLB team I like?
2006-11-18 12:27:52
43.   Greg Brock
Yes. You are a Red Sox fan.

My file is not always spot on.

2006-11-18 12:29:13
44.   yankee23
Oh dear, I guess my cover is blown!
2006-11-18 12:30:16
45.   Greg Brock
Script Ohio!
2006-11-18 12:38:38
46.   Greg Brock
According to a commercial I just watched, Lance Armstrong battled some sort of life threatening illness.

Why was I not told?

2006-11-18 12:43:53
47.   Bob Timmermann
The Livestrong bracelets are to remind people that male pattern baldness is difficult to overcome.
2006-11-18 12:46:05
48.   Bob Timmermann
The OSU-Michigan game is so important that it merits TWO sideline reporters.


That's actually two more than any game needs.

2006-11-18 12:46:55
49.   Bob Timmermann
The suddenly unstoppable Cardinal have taken a 7-0 lead on the Beavers.
2006-11-18 12:47:07
50.   Greg Brock
Turnovers are going to play a big role in this game.
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2006-11-18 12:49:04
51.   Bob Timmermann
I believe Lisa Salters is better at forcing turnovers than Bonnie Bernstein.
2006-11-18 12:51:07
52.   Greg Brock
Bob, I talked to Coach Lloyd Carr before the game, and he told me that it's imperative for the team to come out and play well to start the game. He also plans on yelling a lot, for no reason.

Back up to you in the booth...

2006-11-18 12:54:57
53.   Bob Timmermann
FSN is counterprogramming OSU-Michigan with the epic K State at KU rivalry game.
2006-11-18 12:56:07
54.   Andrew Shimmin
51- Ageist.
2006-11-18 12:57:36
55.   das411
BOB! How could you forget to list the Land Grant Trophy in your list??? We even had that big blood drive competition that we actually won this year! :(
2006-11-18 12:58:54
56.   Bob Timmermann
Bonnie Bernstein is 36. I have no idea how old Lisa Salters is, but she seems to be about the same age.
2006-11-18 12:59:39
57.   Bob Timmermann
Who says I forgot and just didn't consciously choose to ignore it?
2006-11-18 13:00:42
58.   Andrew Shimmin
Bonnie Bernstein is 36.

Really? Huh. Well, there goes that. I've always thought she was, um, nevermind.


Amended 54- Anti-semite!

2006-11-18 13:03:34
59.   Andrew Shimmin
A remarkable website, that puts Salters at around forty:

2006-11-18 13:03:41
60.   Bob Timmermann
Lisa Salters was not wearing a goofy looking hat, so she gets the edge in my book.
2006-11-18 13:04:54
61.   Bob Timmermann
That site may be about super hair, but it's got a very poor design.

Whither Jill Arrington?

2006-11-18 13:08:51
62.   Andrew Shimmin
There's a pitch for buying a banner ad on the site. What d'ya say, Brock? Wanna go halvsies on a Christmas present for The Griddle?
2006-11-18 13:11:49
63.   Greg Brock
62 I'm game!

We need a really good catchphrase, unless we're going with the Willoughby quote Bob uses.

Possible phrases:

It's Griddleiscious!
Now with 20% more stuff!
It's got baseball....And Pluto!

2006-11-18 13:15:21
64.   Bob Timmermann
Derek Jeter is at the game. But it does not appear he has brought a date.
2006-11-18 13:16:26
65.   Bob Timmermann
Remember when Oregon was good.

The Ducks are down 14-3 in the first half at home to Arizona.

2006-11-18 13:18:08
66.   Andrew Shimmin
64- She's in the Adam Sandler movie about gay marriage that's filming now, according to IMDB. I wonder if the LA Times will renominate her for an Oscar for that role.
2006-11-18 13:20:48
67.   trainwreck
She needs to do another film with Shannyn Sossamon, that is how she will get the gold.
2006-11-18 13:23:28
68.   Andrew Shimmin
Shannyn Sossamon is going to be in a movie based on an episode of The Office, where, "people start receiving voice-mails from their future selves -- messages which include the date, time, and some of the details of their deaths."

2006-11-18 13:25:44
69.   trainwreck
It is a remake of my favorite director, Takashi Miike's most maisntream film. It was huge in Japan.
2006-11-18 13:40:14
70.   trainwreck
Roughing the center? Well that is a first for me.
2006-11-18 13:49:12
71.   Greg Brock
Yup, this is about what I expected.
2006-11-18 14:05:19
72.   Bob Timmermann
For a game with a lot of points, I still needed a catnap.

Back in business now. There are still miles to go today.

2006-11-18 14:05:45
73.   Uncle Miltie
Remember when Oregon was good.

The Ducks are down 14-3 in the first half at home to Arizona.
This game could sway my decision.

The OSU/Michigan game is living up to the hype. This is the first time I've seen Michigan play this year.

2006-11-18 14:08:31
74.   Bob Timmermann
For our MWC fans, BYU leads New Mexico 21-3.

Stanford's offensive push was short-lived and the Beavers lead 20-7 at the half on The Farm. 103 total yards for the Cardinal.

2006-11-18 14:09:48
75.   Bob Timmermann
Why in the world did Alabama go for 2 in the first half down 14-9?
2006-11-18 14:10:09
76.   Greg Brock
I predicted 31-14 OSU.

I did not think that it would be like that at halftime.

2006-11-18 14:13:07
77.   Andrew Shimmin
Ah, Lisa Salter, again. The only part of the game I care about.
2006-11-18 14:13:28
78.   Bob Timmermann
Brent Musburger felt obligated to point out that the officials kept the two teams from running into each other as they left the field.

Officials do that EVERY game. In every facility.

2006-11-18 14:23:47
79.   Uncle Miltie
It's kind of early, so play at your own risk
2006-11-18 14:24:23
80.   Greg Brock
Bo Schembechler died?
2006-11-18 14:25:08
81.   Andrew Shimmin
Finally! I've been waiting for Mitch Albom's take on Bo Schembechler for, like, a day and a half.

Thank you ABC.

2006-11-18 14:37:02
82.   Bob Timmermann
Did Mitch Albom say that Morris Peterson was coming out for the funeral?
2006-11-18 14:41:13
83.   Bob Timmermann
Who should I call Brent? Who? Tell me!
2006-11-18 14:42:23
84.   Uncle Miltie

Drink up Bob. I hope you aren't a diabetic because you are going to be drinking a lot of Pepsi.

2006-11-18 14:43:44
85.   trainwreck
Ooooo a Rocky preview lol.
2006-11-18 14:44:15
86.   Bob Timmermann
At least Jack Arute isn't working this game. That saves a lot of drinking.
2006-11-18 14:45:22
87.   Bob Timmermann
Arizona is up on Oregon by 17 in Eugene now.

This may make the results of last week's Cal and USC games look a bit different in hindsight.

2006-11-18 14:47:57
88.   Bob Timmermann
If USC lost today, but beat Notre Dame and UCLA what chances would they have of getting one of the other BCS slots?
2006-11-18 14:51:56
89.   trainwreck
That would most likely leave Ohio St, Michigan, RutgersWV/Lousiville, Florida, and then maybe Arkansas/LSU/Auburn ahead fo them. So yes they do have a good chance.
2006-11-18 14:53:17
90.   Bob Timmermann
Isn't USC the only second place Pac-10 team to ever get a BCS slot?
2006-11-18 14:55:12
91.   trainwreck
I cannot remember the Pac-10 in many BCS games, so you are probably right.
2006-11-18 14:56:23
92.   Greg Brock
Ohio State does not care about Bo.
2006-11-18 14:56:32
93.   Bob Timmermann
USC played Iowa in the Orange Bowl a few years back. That year, Washington State played Oklahoma.

Ooh, Musburger said "Touchdown!" before the player scored. That was quite a drink!

2006-11-18 14:56:34
94.   trainwreck
So much for a defensive game.
2006-11-18 14:58:35
95.   Bob Timmermann
Oregon State must have picked up a case of Dorrell's Syndrome last week.

Here are their last three scores:

Beavers FG Alexis Serna kicked a 29-yard field goal 17 - 7

Beavers FG Alexis Serna kicked a 31-yard field goal 20 - 7

3rd Quarter
Beavers FG Alexis Serna kicked a 18-yard field goal 23 - 7

2006-11-18 14:59:31
96.   Bob Timmermann
Arizona 37
Oregon 10

in the fourth quarter

in Eugene

2006-11-18 15:10:35
97.   Greg Brock
Brent still found a way to mention A.J. Hawk's name once today.

Good job, Brent.

2006-11-18 15:11:54
98.   Andrew Shimmin
Bad advertising strategy: having your logo put in the way of a fountain full of wet, frolicking co-eds.
2006-11-18 15:16:33
99.   Greg Brock
Brent really needs Michigan to do something positive so he can talk about Bo a little more.
2006-11-18 15:17:37
100.   Uncle Miltie
99- there we go!
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2006-11-18 15:18:07
101.   trainwreck
Speak and you shall receive.
2006-11-18 15:19:39
102.   Greg Brock
Greg Brock really needs a six foot blonde to knock on his door.
2006-11-18 15:20:31
103.   Bob Timmermann

But she wouldn't let you watch football and eventually she would make you go to Linen N Things.

2006-11-18 15:21:21
104.   Greg Brock
103 Good point.
2006-11-18 15:21:45
105.   Bob Timmermann
So would it be considered ironic if Cal and USC play a 10-9 game tonight?
2006-11-18 15:22:13
106.   trainwreck
I am going to a sports bar to watch UFC PPV tonight. I hope we can find a table, since people will probably be there all day for this game, then Cal/USC, and the PPV.
2006-11-18 15:22:46
107.   Greg Brock
Here they go, Bob. Going for two with 14 minutes left.

If the play stands...

2006-11-18 15:23:32
108.   Uncle Miltie
I don't agree with that call
2006-11-18 15:23:43
109.   trainwreck
Pac-10 and Big 12 are close to a deal for a challenge for 07-08 in basketball.
2006-11-18 15:24:32
110.   Uncle Miltie
Hart is a little bulldog
2006-11-18 15:25:02
111.   Bob Timmermann
So which Big 12 teams would have to miss out in such a scenario since 10 does not equal 12.
2006-11-18 15:25:55
112.   trainwreck
I am sorry Brent I do not know that.
2006-11-18 15:26:55
113.   Andrew Shimmin
Best rivalry in all of sports. You heard it hear, folks.
2006-11-18 15:27:18
114.   Uncle Miltie
"Folks" "My friend"

That's a double shot

2006-11-18 15:27:41
115.   Bob Timmermann
Hey, I agree with going for 1 there! There's a lot of time left.
2006-11-18 15:28:25
116.   Bob Timmermann

You must mean the Apple Cup, don't you. They kick off in Pullman in about 15 minutes.

2006-11-18 15:28:26
117.   Greg Brock
Wow, somebody said "kick the PAT stupid!"

And Lloyd listened!

2006-11-18 15:28:26
118.   Greg Brock
Wow, somebody said "kick the PAT stupid!"

And Lloyd listened!

2006-11-18 15:28:47
119.   Greg Brock
2006-11-18 15:29:14
120.   trainwreck
The article says that basically a Pac-10 would play some Big 12 school. I guess they just rotate every year, which teams will not play. So it would be a yearly challenge.
2006-11-18 15:30:09
121.   trainwreck
I happen to believe UNC vs Duke is still the best rivalry.
2006-11-18 15:30:55
122.   Greg Brock
I'll stick with Army/Navy.
2006-11-18 15:32:29
123.   Bob Timmermann
I believe UNC and Duke are the second closest pair of D-1A football schools in geography. Houston and Rice are closer.

I'd have to check the list, but I believe they rank:
1) Houston-Rice
2) UNC-Duke
3) Eastern Michigan-Michigan

2006-11-18 15:35:15
124.   Uncle Miltie
Bo made OSU fumble there
2006-11-18 15:36:44
125.   Andrew Shimmin
Still no response from the Super-Hair website about their ad rates.
2006-11-18 15:36:54
126.   Bob Timmermann
I think the really bad grass of Columbus caused that fumble. The ball looked like it got stuck when the center tried to snap it.
2006-11-18 15:37:29
127.   Greg Brock
A center being this relevant in a football game is never a good thing.
2006-11-18 15:38:59
128.   Bob Timmermann
Is it my imagination or was the Rose Bowl a far more interesting "Game of the Century" than this one?
2006-11-18 15:40:23
129.   Andrew Shimmin
128- It's not you. I've been fighting against my better instincts all game to not change the channel.
2006-11-18 15:40:26
130.   trainwreck
I am going with the Rose Bowl. Plus I was not sober for that game and talking to random old people at the bar.
2006-11-18 15:43:13
131.   Bob Timmermann
Oregon State wins on the Farm. Oregon loses at Autzen.

So the Pac-10 Standings right now are:
(Sorry, hard to get columns to format right here)

Pacific-10 Conf All
USC 6-1 8-1
California 6-1 8-2
Oregon State 5-3 7-4
Oregon 4-4 7-4
Washington St 4-4 6-5
Arizona 4-4 6-5
Arizona State 3-4 6-4
UCLA 3-4 5-5
Washington 2-6 4-7
Stanford 1-7 1-10

2006-11-18 15:44:19
132.   trainwreck
I really hate that This Is Our Country song.
2006-11-18 15:50:41
133.   Greg Brock
Wow, Lloyd is going to yell at somebody for that one.

Can't go helmet to helmet out of bounds. That's kind of illegal.

2006-11-18 15:53:04
134.   Greg Brock
Congrats on the Heisman, Troy.
2006-11-18 15:54:06
135.   trainwreck
This game is taking forever!
2006-11-18 15:55:36
136.   Bob Timmermann
Actually compared to last year's games is really not all that long.

And if you tried to watch last weeks USC-Oregon game, you would find this one downright brisk!

2006-11-18 15:55:45
137.   trainwreck
My ride to the bar (who clearly does not follow college sports) will be here soon.
2006-11-18 15:56:27
138.   Greg Brock
Still a shorter game than Yankees/Sox on ESPN or Fox.
2006-11-18 15:57:04
139.   Bob Timmermann
Well, this game is all over but for the shouting.

The fat lady has sung.

Put out the dogs and piss on the fire.

[Insert cliche here]

2006-11-18 15:57:51
140.   Greg Brock
Bo died for nothing.
2006-11-18 15:58:36
141.   trainwreck
If you were a Michigan player, would you trust a sandwich made by a former Ohio St. kicker?
2006-11-18 15:59:02
142.   Bob Timmermann
All the stuff about Bo will be repeated on New Year's Day at the Rose Bowl.
2006-11-18 16:01:08
143.   trainwreck
Can we evoke the NBA whining rule on Carr?
2006-11-18 16:04:36
144.   Bob Timmermann
Please do. I think Tommy Tuberville would get charged a lot too.
2006-11-18 16:04:51
145.   Greg Brock
You can't call pass interference on a 4th down hail mary.

That's just weak.

2006-11-18 16:05:44
146.   Bob Timmermann
It may be weak, but that call seemed fairly easy to make.
2006-11-18 16:06:33
147.   Greg Brock
Yeah, the guy was faceguarding, but I would be more sympathetic to the call if the DB had, you know, touched the guy.
2006-11-18 16:07:31
148.   Bob Timmermann
Now Michigan should go for 2.
2006-11-18 16:10:23
149.   trainwreck
Best hands? How many passes has Ginn dropped today?
2006-11-18 16:12:43
150.   trainwreck
Thats it!
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2006-11-18 16:13:53
151.   Bob Timmermann
In the words of Apollo Creed at the end of "Rocky"

Ain't gonna be no rematch!

Please don't let there be a rematch!

2006-11-18 16:14:41
152.   Greg Brock
I only have one team that I don't want to see in the national title game.

It's not Michigan.
It's not Notre Dame.

2006-11-18 16:18:17
153.   Bob Timmermann
I'm surprised you dislike Rutgers that much.
2006-11-18 16:21:19
154.   Greg Brock
If Rutgers makes it to the big game, Lou Holtz's head is going to explode.

That guy does not like Rutgers.

2006-11-18 16:22:26
155.   Bob Timmermann
So it's Wake Forest you dislike?
2006-11-18 16:26:27
156.   Bob Timmermann
Montana ended up beating Montana State 13-7.

And that's your yankee23 scoreboard.

2006-11-18 16:26:38
157.   Greg Brock
If Rutgers goes undefeated, and does not play in the title game, that would be a travesty.

Not because Rutgers is that good, but because they went undefeated in a BCS conference. Dem's da rules, and they did what they were supposed to do.

2006-11-18 16:27:14
158.   Greg Brock
West Virginia, however, will take care of that, I think.
2006-11-18 16:31:09
159.   Bob Timmermann
I'm trying to figure out whether to go get a pizza or have it delivered. I don't have great delivery choices.

And when do I get it since the USC and UCLA games dovetail in starting times.

And what toppings on the pizza?

2006-11-18 16:32:38
160.   Greg Brock
Go and get it

Get it now. Keep it in the oven at low setting to keep warm until dinner.

Pepperoni, mushrooms, and onions.

2006-11-18 16:46:10
161.   Bob Timmermann

But it will be mushrooms and anchovies!

2006-11-18 16:53:19
162.   Bob Timmermann
If Cal were to win tonight, would the guys in the white coats from the TofR be there to hand out an invite?

Or do they still have to wait for all the BCS pairings to be finalized?

2006-11-18 16:53:52
163.   Greg Brock
I've never had anchovies on a pizza. I just know they've been the victim of a horrible smear campaign by the anit-anchovie lobby.

It may taste quite good. I have no idea.

2006-11-18 16:58:53
164.   Bob Timmermann
You've probably eaten more anchovies than you think.

Have you ever used Worcestershire sauce? It has anchovies in it.

Note: don't use it as an embalming fluid.

2006-11-18 16:59:38
165.   Greg Brock
Of course, if you think the anit-anchovie lobby is bad, you should see the anti-anchovy lobby.

Spelling is fun!

2006-11-18 17:04:42
166.   Bob Timmermann
In the Greg Brock household, there is a countdown clock to 7:15 pm at which point, he starts speaking only in profanities directed at Karl Dorrell.
2006-11-18 17:06:34
167.   Greg Brock
I've almost lost the will to swear at Karl.


2006-11-18 17:12:22
168.   Andrew Shimmin
The Apple Cup is already better than that stuffy Big 10 affair this afternoon.
2006-11-18 17:12:25
169.   Greg Brock
Well, time to get food and libations.

Hopefully, Cal is up by 21 when I come back.

I'm not betting on it.

2006-11-18 17:31:03
170.   Bob Timmermann
I can only envision Cal winning a shootout.
2006-11-18 17:50:22
171.   Greg Brock
Oh, you silly Rutgers.

Why stop running? What are you doing Cal?

2006-11-18 17:50:41
172.   Bob Timmermann
I knew Aaron Rodgers.
Aaron Rodgers was a friend of mine.

Nate Longshore, you are no Aaron Rodgers.

2006-11-18 17:51:24
173.   Greg Brock
Boy that Tedford is a genius.
2006-11-18 17:51:31
174.   Uncle Miltie
Nice safety.
2006-11-18 17:52:51
175.   Greg Brock
Okay, Cal. Run the ball.


2006-11-18 17:52:56
176.   Bob Timmermann
Why did Carroll send his punter out for the free kick? In college ball, you can kickoff from a tee on those.
2006-11-18 17:53:20
177.   Uncle Miltie
173- just like Jeff Kent when he makes errors, so he can set up the double play.
2006-11-18 17:54:25
178.   Greg Brock
176 They want to hang the ball in the air so Jackson can't return it.

That would be my guess.

2006-11-18 17:57:13
179.   Greg Brock
2006-11-18 17:57:15
180.   Bob Timmermann
I don't think I've ever seen a college team punt in that situation before.

I wonder how many safeties USC has given up during Carroll's time.

2006-11-18 17:57:33
181.   Greg Brock
Keep running that thing...and hold on to it.
2006-11-18 17:59:25
182.   Daniel Zappala
Can someone explain how Cal got the safety?

Bob, I'm making my own pizza tonight. I even have a pizza stone.

2006-11-18 17:59:40
183.   Greg Brock
Paul is offering nothing...Except brilliant insight.

Paul is the man.

2006-11-18 18:00:23
184.   Greg Brock
You haven't had great homemade pizza until you've made barbecued pizza.

Good stuff.

2006-11-18 18:01:25
185.   Greg Brock
Please stop trying to pass, when you're running all over them.


2006-11-18 18:03:46
186.   Bob Timmermann
I supported local business, but I would like to have a pizza stone. But my attempts to make pizza dough have been ....

less than successful.

2006-11-18 18:04:31
187.   Bob Timmermann
As for the safety, Longshore had a long pass intercepted at the USC 3. Mebane got to Washington in the end zone untouched for the 2-pointer.
2006-11-18 18:09:18
188.   Bob Timmermann
Just your typical, hard-hitting, defensive Pac-10 games. I don't see why people like that soft style with all the points that the Big 10 has. There just be a wimps out there in the Big 10.

The Pac-10, three yards and a cloud of dust!

2006-11-18 18:10:27
189.   Greg Brock
Run all the way down to the Southern Cal 25
Go play action
It gets intercepted
I die a little bit inside.

Please don't let that happen.

2006-11-18 18:11:50
190.   Bob Timmermann
Karl Dorrell wouldn't have made that play call. He would have run a trap play and kicked a field goal.
2006-11-18 18:12:36
191.   Daniel Zappala
I can teach you to make dough, Bob. I also have my own sauce, which I made this summer from tomatoes in my garden, then froze.

The next step is to learn to slaughter a pig and make my own sausage.

2006-11-18 18:14:00
192.   Daniel Zappala
188 Bob, that made me smile. Can't tell you how many times I've heard that about the Pac-10, and of course today's game was the two best teams in college football, hands down.
2006-11-18 18:15:24
193.   Bob Timmermann
Do you know how big a pig gets before it gets slaughtered? They weigh around 1000 lbs.

You're going to need a lot of help to get that hog slaughtered.

2006-11-18 18:16:54
194.   Bob Timmermann
If Cal holds USC to a field goal on this drive, they will still be in slam range.
2006-11-18 18:17:15
195.   Greg Brock
I was going to slaughter a pig once, but then a giant web said that it was "some pig" and "radiant" and I decided to keep it alive and enter it in competitions and I forged a friendship with it.

True story.

2006-11-18 18:18:02
196.   Bob Timmermann
There wasn't a web that said "Terrific"?
2006-11-18 18:18:49
197.   Greg Brock
196 You're thinking of that fictional story.
2006-11-18 18:19:13
198.   Daniel Zappala
193 My uncle kept hogs for a while. Hogs and Saint Bernards. I guess he liked big animals. Once the hogs got out while we were visiting, and he asked us all to help round them up. I was about 10. We gathered around one hog in a circle, and he was determined to stay free. He took a look around, and guess who he decided to run at? I jumped out of the way, and for some reason my uncle was mad at me for not standing my ground and grabbing that hog.
2006-11-18 18:21:00
199.   Daniel Zappala
Note that I got into a profession that does not involve big things running at me. Grad students are much smaller.
2006-11-18 18:21:19
200.   Greg Brock
There you go, Bob.

Slam range.

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2006-11-18 18:21:19
201.   Bob Timmermann
My father was a dairy farmer, but his father had pigs for a while. Once they got loose and uprooted the family vegetable garden.

Hogs love to dig things up with their snouts. They're far easier to train than cattle.

2006-11-18 18:22:54
202.   Bob Timmermann
Although Wake Forest is likely going to go down tonight, they can still get a BCS spot if they beat Maryland and then Georgia Tech in the ACC championship game.

I'm sure the BCS bowl that gets Wake Forest will be very, very, very..... polite.

2006-11-18 18:23:10
203.   Jon Weisman
Cal's bid to win with 4 bites the dust.

USC's Earl Weaver offense is beating the smallball strategy of the Bears.

2006-11-18 18:24:14
204.   Greg Brock
Wow, this is fun. It's like having the frustration and pain of TWO UCLA/Southern Cal games in one season!
2006-11-18 18:28:34
205.   Bob Timmermann
On December 7, 1895 USC and Cal Tech (which I believe was called Throop at the time) tied 4-4 in football.
2006-11-18 18:28:55
206.   Greg Brock
Pass on first down, run on second, call timeout.

Somebody make sure Karl is in Tempe, and not on the Cal sideline...

2006-11-18 18:30:27
207.   Uncle Miltie
Nice. I didn't think Cal would convert.
2006-11-18 18:30:36
208.   Jon Weisman
Throop - there it is.
2006-11-18 18:36:06
209.   Bob Timmermann
That 1895 USC-Throop (Cal Tech) game was played at Athletic Park at the corner of 7th and Alameda.
2006-11-18 18:36:12
210.   Greg Brock
Bo should be up in heaven, hitting on Marilyn Monroe and Ava Gardner.

Bo should not be focusing on football right now.

2006-11-18 18:38:02
211.   Greg Brock
Wow, what a fast first half.
2006-11-18 18:39:08
212.   Bob Timmermann
Bad field position for both teams have led to long drives that have kept the clock moving.
2006-11-18 18:42:46
213.   Greg Brock
Mike Hart wins this year's Matt Leinart Award for consciliatory comments after a loss.
2006-11-18 18:43:51
214.   Bob Timmermann
Washington has just scored its third TD of over 60 yards from scrimmage and is up 35-25 with 10:43 left.
2006-11-18 18:47:15
215.   Daniel Zappala
This has been a strange Pac-10 season. Teams like Arizona rising up and beating top teams in the league. Teams like Oregon stumbling around after looking so good. Really strange.
2006-11-18 18:51:06
216.   Bob Timmermann
I think most Pac-10 seasons are strange and not all that predictable. It's not like the SEC where there's a nice pecking order.
2006-11-18 18:53:08
217.   Bob Timmermann
134 yards of offense for USC and 98 were on the initial drive.
2006-11-18 18:58:25
218.   Bob Timmermann
Cincinnati is up 27-3 on Rutgers and appears to be saving us from a BCS championship game featuring a team from Piscataway.
2006-11-18 19:03:40
219.   Daniel Zappala
I'm a bit of a BCS contrarian. I'd like to see everyone end with one loss, or even better two losses, just so that it is obvious that no one really knows who the two best teams are. For the same reason, I always root for a team like Rutgers or Boise State to mess things up.
2006-11-18 19:05:29
220.   Greg Brock
Paul is really excited about his seat.
2006-11-18 19:07:03
221.   Bob Timmermann
At the beginning of the game, Brad Nessler said , "Here comes USC, #4 in the nation, #3 in the BCS!"

How can you say that and expect it to make any sense?

Rutgers won't be in the championship game, but they can still go to a BCS bowl if they beat West Virginia.

2006-11-18 19:15:57
222.   Greg Brock
Go for it.
2006-11-18 19:16:34
223.   Bob Timmermann
And the Apple Cup heads to Seattle.
2006-11-18 19:16:59
224.   Greg Brock
That was monumentally stupid.
2006-11-18 19:17:43
225.   Bob Timmermann
Petros Papadakis must be very excited to be in Tempe tonight.
2006-11-18 19:25:20
226.   Bob Timmermann
The road teams in the Pac-10 are 3-0 today.
2006-11-18 19:26:18
227.   Greg Brock
Apparently, ABC borrowed some technology from Telemundo for that segment.
2006-11-18 19:27:17
228.   Greg Brock
Paul is very quickly entering Beano Cook territory.
2006-11-18 19:27:21
229.   Bob Timmermann
For those scoring at home, Desmond Reed's field goal return is credited under "Miscellaneous yardage".
2006-11-18 19:35:56
230.   Greg Brock
UCLA takes the lead 7-0 in the desert.
2006-11-18 19:37:44
231.   Greg Brock
Dear Cal,

Please win this game. Please.


2006-11-18 19:38:46
232.   Bob Timmermann
USC has not played a game in which they failed to score a touchdown since Washington shut them out in 1997, 27-0.

They've had two games where they scored six points in Carroll's first year in 2001, but both times they scored TDs, but missed PATs.

2006-11-18 19:44:06
233.   Bob Timmermann
And USC's streak of scoring TDs continues.

1987 was the last time, they won a game without scoring a TD. They beat Arizona 12-10.

2006-11-18 19:49:59
234.   Greg Brock
Why did they stop running?
Come on Bears, don't do this...
2006-11-18 19:52:42
235.   Bob Timmermann
Why is the way this game is going so surprising? You think being a UCLA football fan is rough. Try being a Cal fan. It's the same, just worse.
2006-11-18 19:54:15
236.   Greg Brock
235 Oh, it's not surprising. In fact, it's predictable in it's painfulness.

It's exactly like a UCLA game.

2006-11-18 20:00:59
237.   Bob Timmermann
Two touchdowns for the Bruins and no field goals! Amazing!
2006-11-18 20:02:14
238.   Greg Brock
Well, my master plan is shot to hell

Cal beats Southern Cal
UCLA loses to ASU and Southern Cal
Karl is fired
Cal goes to the Rose Bowl

It was so promising this morning...

2006-11-18 20:03:27
239.   Greg Brock
I really need to focus on more reachable master plans.
2006-11-18 20:03:48
240.   Bob Timmermann
If you want to make God smile, show him your plans.
2006-11-18 20:05:27
241.   Greg Brock
I really don't understand why Cal just completely decided to stop running the football in the second half. Makes zero sense.

I showed God my plans. He gave me the thumbs up. I think he was setting me up.

2006-11-18 20:15:44
242.   Greg Brock
Oh well, that would have been nice.
2006-11-18 20:18:54
243.   Andrew Shimmin
241- Show him your files and the rest of us will stop smiling.
2006-11-18 20:21:31
244.   Greg Brock
Time to watch the "real" football game going on in Tempe.

By "real" I mean unimportant.

2006-11-18 20:22:23
245.   Bob Timmermann
ASU and UCLA are maddeningly similar teams.
2006-11-18 20:24:03
246.   Greg Brock
Alabama, Arizona St., and UCLA all need to fire their football coaches.

Two of them will.

2006-11-18 20:31:08
247.   Greg Brock
On the bright side, I sure do like the new road uniforms. They look very sharp.

Yay silver linings!

2006-11-18 20:35:45
248.   Greg Brock
If ASU scores a TD, do they go for two Bob?
2006-11-18 20:43:06
249.   Bob Timmermann
ASU has been touched by Dorrell's Syndrome.
2006-11-18 20:44:17
250.   Greg Brock
Dorrell's Syndrome is eerily similar to the Hanta Virus.
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2006-11-18 20:59:38
251.   Greg Brock
I don't understand how Fox Sports can have just a terrible, terrible group of announcers and "analysts".

Barry Tomkins is okay, I guess, but wow, everybody else is just awful.

2006-11-18 21:00:10
252.   Bob Timmermann
Hawai'i is up 13-0 in the second quarter against San Jose State. They finish up with two home games against Purdue and Oregon State. I would assume they would be favored in both of those.

They could go to the Hawai'i Bowl with an 11-2 record.

2006-11-18 21:01:52
253.   Bob Timmermann
And the Spartans are on the board! 13-7 in Honolulu.
2006-11-18 21:03:56
254.   Greg Brock
Wow, 5 second half yards. That's Stanfordesque.
2006-11-18 21:07:17
255.   Bob Timmermann
So Cal is headed to the Holiday Bowl. They'll get the Big 12 #3. Nebraska? Oklahoma?
2006-11-18 21:09:20
256.   Bob Timmermann
ASU is hoping for a 15-14 win I guess.
2006-11-18 21:09:26
257.   Greg Brock
Karl Dorrell has decided to coach both teams tonight.
2006-11-18 21:09:54
258.   Andrew Shimmin
No Hanta virus, but the Chlamydia is, I think, quite fetching.

2006-11-18 21:14:03
259.   Greg Brock
Chlamydia is a bit to busy for my taste.

I prefer the subtle elegance of Dust Mites.

2006-11-18 21:14:45
260.   Bob Timmermann
The names Karl Dorrell and Dirk Koetter are remarkably similar if you ignore the differences.
2006-11-18 21:16:51
261.   Andrew Shimmin
I like dust mites better, too, but dust mites don't move traffic.
2006-11-18 21:17:39
262.   Greg Brock
Dorrell's secretary is named Dirk
Koetter's nephew is named Karl
One was born in Arizona but coaches UCLA
The other was born in California but coaches ASU

I made that all up.

2006-11-18 21:21:16
263.   Bob Timmermann
For the record, Karl Dorrell was born in Alameda, CA. Dirk Koetter was born in Pocatello, ID.
2006-11-18 21:27:26
264.   Bob Timmermann
A trick play from UCLA! Amazing!
2006-11-18 21:30:46
265.   Andrew Shimmin
That can't have been a reverse. It looked like one. But it can't have been!
2006-11-18 21:31:10
266.   Bob Timmermann
It was an end around.
2006-11-18 21:38:02
267.   bhsportsguy
Do they have non-blonde cheerleaders at ASU?
2006-11-18 21:39:53
268.   Greg Brock
Well, I'm heading out. The Griddle record will be broken yet again!

I hope UCLA wins.
I guess

2006-11-18 21:40:41
269.   Andrew Shimmin
267- Yes.

2006-11-18 21:41:29
270.   Bob Timmermann
Arizona State's website lists their names, but has no pictures.

One of the members is named Elise Rosenthal, so there could be the token brunette.

UCLA takes a different approach.

2006-11-18 21:43:26
271.   Andrew Shimmin
Ah, my picture (erm, the one I posted a link to, I mean) is old. 2000-2001.
2006-11-18 21:43:37
272.   Bob Timmermann
Andrew wins the Gregg Easterbrook Award.
2006-11-18 21:44:06
273.   Bob Timmermann
Andrew's Easterbrook Award is rescinded.
2006-11-18 21:46:29
274.   Greg Brock
I broke the record

Okay, I'm leaving now

2006-11-18 21:47:35
275.   Andrew Shimmin
The google is not helpful in this matter; what's the Easterbrook Award for?
2006-11-18 21:50:40
276.   Bob Timmermann
Gregg Easterbrook writes the Tuesday Morning QB column on's Page 2 and he writes a rambling column that includes lots of links to NFL cheerleaders.

You might find it interesting for a few weeks.

Then it gets really irritating.

2006-11-18 21:53:00
277.   Andrew Shimmin
Ah; thanks. Hey! Like you're any better--I'm kinda digging Bridgette; Sabrina is a Mitch Albom fan, so, I wish she were on fire. There's one called Ember.


2006-11-18 21:54:02
278.   Bob Timmermann
But Ember has a double major in neuroscience and Italian!
2006-11-18 21:54:57
279.   Andrew Shimmin
Brittany likes books of lists. And, while I wouldn't like to call her a liar, I'm not entirely convinced that there is any such person as one who liked both How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days, and Closer. Could be, but I don't buy it.
2006-11-18 21:55:48
280.   Andrew Shimmin
Ooh, Holly and Jessica are in the witness protection program.
2006-11-18 22:01:18
281.   Bob Timmermann
UCLA's chances of making the Hawai'i Bowl have increased! Party at Linkmeister's!
2006-11-18 22:04:23
282.   Linkmeister
Somebody tell Bridgette that you're not a guide-on bearer, you're a guidon bearer.

Unlike her, I actually spent some time in boot camp.

281 Hmm. I'd better go see if the game's still on the tube, huh? Gotta do advance scouting. It's 20-10 UH over SJS at halftime, btw.

2006-11-18 22:10:16
283.   trainwreck
What a great night! GSP knocked Matt Hughes out and UCLA is going to be bowl eligible lol.
2006-11-18 22:13:15
284.   Bob Timmermann
FSN just showed three ASU cheerleaders who had either black or brown hair.
2006-11-18 22:14:39
285.   Andrew Shimmin
282- Uh, you have a problem with Bridgette, maybe it's something we could step outside and handle, Mr. Meister.
2006-11-18 22:17:54
286.   Linkmeister
285 My only problem with her is that she needs an editor.
2006-11-18 22:18:42
287.   Bob Timmermann
And Brigette wants to go back in time to see the Battle of Saratoga.

I hear she has a big poster of Burgoyne in her apartment.

2006-11-18 22:19:54
288.   Bob Timmermann

ucla won...



2006-11-18 22:22:02
289.   Andrew Shimmin
286- Alright then. I actually have more problems with her than that, but she's the one I picked, and I'm fiercely loyal to my snap decision cheerleader picks.
2006-11-18 22:23:10
290.   Linkmeister
287 She's far too refined for her poster boy to be Richard Rogers or Francis Marion.
2006-11-18 22:31:52
291.   Linkmeister
289 Fiercely loyal? Hah! You need to watch one of these videos; then you'll get fiercely loyal!

I'm not kidding; one of our local banks uses a collie in an ad campaign telling us how loyal it is to its customers.

2006-11-18 22:36:41
292.   Andrew Shimmin
I have no banking loyalty. Banks are like hookers; pick the one that's handiest (pun intended) and least likely to rat you out to the cops.
2006-11-18 22:41:09
293.   Linkmeister
I have some banking loyalty, but it's partly inertia and partly family links. When I needed a Hawai'i bank account my dad worked for the largest one in town; had I picked a different one I might have heard about it for a while.
2006-11-18 23:16:42
294.   StolenMonkey86
I find myself kinda loyal to the bank that actually has ATMs and a branch on campus here. Makes things easier.
2006-11-18 23:16:43
295.   trainwreck
Which one is the famous Bridgette I keep reading about?
2006-11-18 23:18:43
296.   natepurcell

those are exactly the types of jokes that you need to give to the media.

2006-11-18 23:18:46
297.   Andrew Shimmin
She's at the top of the page in the link from 270.
2006-11-18 23:21:03
298.   StolenMonkey86
297 - well in that case:

I wanna be an airborne ranger
I wanna live a life of danger
I wanna drive an ocean liner . . .

2006-11-18 23:22:11
299.   trainwreck
I would rather take Jenn from the dance team. I swear these girls looked way better at the basketball game.
2006-11-18 23:23:46
300.   Andrew Shimmin
299- OOH! I didn't notice that on the sidebar. There are more of them!
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2006-11-18 23:24:10
301.   StolenMonkey86
Ok, 301
2006-11-18 23:25:54
302.   trainwreck
That Katie girl looks like she would a lot better in person.
2006-11-18 23:26:23
303.   trainwreck
*would look
2006-11-18 23:44:18
304.   Steve
Notre Dame is obsessed with Christianity.

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