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Gold Glove popularity contest ballot released
2007-02-20 10:00
by Bob Timmermann

You can go here to vote.

There are just three candidates for pitcher: Bob Gibson, Jim Kaat, and Greg Maddux.

There are six shortstop candidates: Luis Aparicio, Mark Belanger, Dave Concepcion, Derek Jeter, Ozzie Smith, Omar Vizquel.

You can review the other positions. One of the stats given by Rawlings to help compare the fielders is range factor, although it's reported strangely. Ozzie Smith's range factor is given as 442.477. Derek Jeter's is 355.672.

And the double play totals are off. For his career, Ozzie Smith is credited with 36 double plays. That's the total of DPs he was in his final season in the majors when he only played part-time.
Jeter is credited with 96 DPs, which was his total from 2005.

Mark Belanger has 4 DPs in his career!

2007-02-20 11:08:20
1.   dianagramr

I blame the statistical errors (no pun intended) on the imminent move of Extra Innings to DirecTV.

(that's my story .... I'm stickin' to it)

2007-02-20 11:23:41
2.   Sam DC
I need a range factor for exactly how cranky Bob is going to be about this gimmick.

So far, it looks like a very big range.

2007-02-20 11:47:27
3.   Bob Timmermann
If Ken Griffey Jr. gets chosen, I will be really, really, really, really cranky.
2007-02-20 12:31:09
4.   xaphor
Something to cheer up your mood Bob.

Vatican stars kick off priestly world cup

2007-02-20 12:31:24
5.   rbj
3 Ask and ye shall receive. I put Jr. down.

Oh, wait, you didn't want to get cranky?

2007-02-20 12:36:15
6.   Greg Brock
Griffey has a career FRAA of -54.

Again, NEGATIVE 54 Fielding Runs Above Average.

2007-02-20 13:16:03
7.   D4P
If Ken Griffey Jr. gets chosen, I will be really, really, really, really cranky

What about Torii Hunter...?

2007-02-20 13:16:51
8.   Greg Brock
And, for Cliff:

Brooks Robinson:
FRAA-216 (Jebus)

Craig Nettles:

2007-02-20 13:21:56
9.   Greg Brock
Sorry, Graig. You didn't deserve to have your name misspelled. Heck of a player.
2007-02-20 13:22:50
10.   Bob Timmermann
According to Sam, Nettles was just a glove man and had no power.
2007-02-20 13:58:53
11.   DXMachina
Well, that's just nettlesome...
2007-02-20 14:38:15
12.   Chyll Will
10 Sure, when he was up the ball got really bored and left the park early to beat the traffic on the Major Deegan...
2007-02-20 15:40:34
13.   Greg Brock
Also, looking at JT Snow's defensive data, he is a terribly overrated 1st baseman.
2007-02-20 15:49:47
14.   Bob Timmermann
JT Snow's career was very overrated.

He was one of Dusty's guys.

2007-02-20 15:58:49
15.   Greg Brock
You know who was a great first baseman, and should have been, at the very least, considered?

John Olerud.

And he wore a Baskin Robbins helmet to protect his noodle, which was aneurystastic!

2007-02-20 16:08:55
16.   Sam DC
10 I was 11 years in 1978, Bob. That's just how it goes.
2007-02-20 16:39:16
17.   Ken Arneson
13 I'm not sure I trust defensive data for first basemen very much. Like catchers, I don't think the data captures what they do very much. Snow was a fabulous defensive first baseman. Olerud was, as well.
2007-02-20 16:43:24
18.   Greg Brock
17 I do agree about defensive metrics, Ken. But I tried to look consistently across the board about a dozen first basmen to establish some sort of a base line set of stats.

I those, Snow fell well short (comparatively). But I agree with measuring 1st basemen. In fact, I think most defensive metrics are far from perfect. Fielding is one aspect of the game that demands diligent in-game observation.

2007-02-20 17:10:06
19.   Bob Timmermann
I was 12 in 1978. I obviously had more knowledge of the game in that extra year.
2007-02-20 23:03:50
20.   Strike4
Maybe these stats reflect performance when wearing a Rawlings glove only.

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