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The Veterans Committee sends black smoke up the chimney
2007-02-27 11:20
by Bob Timmermann

The Veterans Committee of the Baseball Hall of Fame, for the third straight time, elected nobody to join their ranks.

Ron Santo came the closest with 57 votes, five short of the necessary 62. Jim Kaat got 52 votes. Former umpire Doug Harvey also received 52 votes and former head of the MLBPA Marvin Miller received 51.

2007-02-27 11:53:41
1.   Jon Weisman
I find this frustrating.
2007-02-27 12:07:08
2.   bhsportsguy
I guess once they ran out of old New York Giant players to elect, they decided to never vote anyone else in via the Veteran's Committee.

I think what they should do is make a smaller group responsible for non-players but if they want to use the large body to elect players, that's fine, its their club.

2007-02-27 12:09:13
3.   Shaun P
What? ARGH! C'mon! Damn. Sigh.
2007-02-27 12:53:34
4.   bhsportsguy
Addie Joss, Joe Sewell, George Kell, three among the many questionable electees by the Veteran's committee.

Do you think that Tommy Lasorda could get enough votes today if he needed 62+ to get into the HOF?

2007-02-27 12:57:50
5.   Marty
Now that Lasorda has a possible character problem, we need to keep him out :)
2007-02-27 13:18:27
6.   Sandus
What a horrible system.
2007-02-27 13:56:56
7.   Bob Timmermann
Dick Williams got just 30 votes despite winning pennants for three different teams in two different leagues.
2007-02-27 14:14:40
8.   Shaun P
Two words: Marvin Miller.

His non-inclusion into the Hall of Fame might be worse than Santo's. Who on the VC who votes doesn't understand that?

2007-02-27 14:22:16
9.   El Lay Dave
If a player can't get in through the front door, there shouldn't be a rear entrance.

For the non-players, the Veterans Committee is a ridiculously idiotic concept. This should be approached something like a museum; have a curatorial committee of baseball historians, or historian-like individuals, determine the historically noteworthy non-players who should be singled-out for this honor of mention. (Marvin Miller should be a slam-dunk - duh!)

I nominate Bob Timmermann as a member.

2007-02-27 14:32:47
10.   El Lay Dave
This morning Colin Cowherd was ranting about the stupidity of rushing the court, citing last night's Syracuse fans flooding the floor after a 14-point win over #10 Georgetown as a example of inappropriateness.

Does he read Timmermann?

2007-02-27 14:43:41
11.   Bob Timmermann
I don't establish zeitgeist, I just reflect it.
2007-02-27 15:04:41
12.   El Lay Dave
"The Zeitgeist encouraged Philosopher-Kings" -- James Atlas
2007-02-27 15:17:24
13.   dianagramr
(note to self .... google for "Zeitgeist Establishment Kit")
2007-02-27 15:44:27
14.   El Lay Dave
Take it from me, Billy Mays, you can establish Zeitgeist with my "Zeitgeist Establishment Kit", for only three payments of $49.99*! Here's how to order!

*plus shipping and handling

2007-02-27 16:02:26
15.   Greg Brock
14 Nice.

Well, I said that I didn't think Ron Santo wasn't a HOFer, and a friend of mine sent me a mini-novel on why he does. I guess I was wrong, and Santo deserves it. Other than that, O'Malley and Marvin Miller deserve it. Newcome lost a lot of years in the minors, segregated baseball, and war, and so he misses out. Hodges, as beloved as he is, just isn't a HOF first basemen. First ballot Hall of Very Good.

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