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Day 2 of the Pac-10 tournament
2007-03-08 11:07
by Bob Timmermann

It's going to be a very long day for me at Staples Center. The first game tips off at 12:20 pm PT between #4 seed Oregon (23-7) and #5 Arizona (20-9). The teams split their two games this year with each team winning on the road. Both teams have been considered Final Four contenders at times this year. But both hit hard times as the season rolled on. Arizona's defensive struggles and lack of depth hurt them. As for Oregon, a favorable home schedule early got them off to a good start and then they fell and fell hard. The Ducks managed to beat UCLA once and Washington State twice, but lost to Washington twice also. That is if you interpret the word "twice" in the previous sentence to mean "once." Kids today and their crazy talk.

The second game should start around 2:50 pm PT between #1 UCLA (26-4) and #8 Cal (15-16). The Bruins beat the Bears twice this year. UCLA beat Cal in the final last year. This year the Bruins shouldn't have too much trouble against a banged-up Cal team that doesn't have much going for it other than jacking up three point attempts. Cal did have a 34-2 run at one point Oregon State Wednesday night in its opening round game.

After that, Staples Center gets cleared out and I go forage for food and then head back in.

The third game starts at 6:20 and matches #3 USC (21-10) and #6 Stanford (18-11). The Trojans and Cardinal split their season series with each team winning at home. Both teams are coming in on a downward trend. The Cardinal have lost three of their last four and the Trojans lost their last two games. This game will eliminate a lot of the contestants in the Griddle contest. It's a tough game to handicap. The Trojans will be slight favorites as they are playing closer to home and are healthier.

The final game will start around 8:45 and matches #2 Washington State (24-6) and #7 Washington (19-12). The Huskies scrapped out a win over Arizona State Wednesday night and will try to avenge two regular season losses to the Cougars. The Cougars won by 28 in Pullman and by 4 in Seattle. Outside of conference play, the Huskies have no notable wins. Both teams played Gonzaga early in the year. The Huskies lost to the Zags by 20 and the Cougars won by 10. UW was playing in Spokane, but Wazzu was hosting Gonzaga in Pullman.

And now updated picks. Incorrect entries are in strikethrough and the points were deducted from your possible total.

There were no changes in the scoring rules.

Comments (220)
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2007-03-08 08:41:09
1.   D4P
The Ducks managed to beat UCLA once and Washington State twice, but lost to Washington twice also

Not true. The Ducks were 1-1 against Washington. They lost twice to USC.

2007-03-08 08:41:34
2.   D4P
I suppose you're not going to change that, either...
2007-03-08 11:07:54
3.   Bob Timmermann
Still on plumber watch here.
2007-03-08 11:12:44
4.   Bob Timmermann
The black gunk has drained out of my sink. I take this to mean that the plumber is here.

But I so loved the smell of rotting food.

2007-03-08 11:46:47
5.   Sam DC
Well, is it a plumber watch or a black gunk watch? If the former, you should strive for a sharper performance.
2007-03-08 12:02:56
6.   Eric Enders
5 There's a difference?
2007-03-08 12:09:22
7.   trainwreck
Calling plumbers just makes me think of Isla Vista.
2007-03-08 12:22:46
8.   Jon Weisman
At, the Times teases its NCAA tournament coverage by inviting you to "show your skill and fill out your bracket early." Click the link, and sure enough, you get a blank bracket.

Picking that 5-12 upset isn't so tough - until you don't know which teams are playing in the 5-12 game.

2007-03-08 12:23:41
9.   trainwreck
These new Nike uniforms look terrible. The Syracuse one was the worst.
2007-03-08 12:28:15
10.   El Lay Dave
I'm no fashion maven, but does it make any sense that fitted tops and huge, baggy shorts could possibly look good?
2007-03-08 12:32:21
11.   Bob Timmermann
I am looking live at Staples Center in Los Angeles!

After a little delay finding a place to park and then wondering if my car will be smushed by the hulking SUV parked near it, I got to my seat just after tipoff.

I am on the Oregon end of the court, although neither team has a whole lot of fans. More than ASU though.

This is the blue half of the bracket as all four teams wear blue or a color that is made from blue

Tonight will be the red half as all four teams wear red or a color made from red. Washington wearing purple is very convenient for this purpose.

2007-03-08 12:34:03
12.   Bob Timmermann
The jerseys look worse in person. Arizona's are particularly hideous.
2007-03-08 12:37:45
13.   Bob Timmermann
23 picks for Arizona, 10 for Oregon.
2007-03-08 12:40:52
14.   D4P
1 point for an "underdog" victory, 1 point for a "favorite" victory.
2007-03-08 12:41:35
15.   trainwreck
The stripes on the back are so unnecessary.
2007-03-08 12:43:22
16.   Bob Timmermann
If an Arizona win were worth 2, then even more people would have picked them.
2007-03-08 12:44:09
17.   D4P
Didn't that logic apply across the board?
2007-03-08 12:45:34
18.   Bob Timmermann
The Rams STILL didn't make the playoffs too.
2007-03-08 12:46:20
19.   D4P
And Jae Seo STILL didn't get his save.
2007-03-08 12:47:19
20.   trainwreck
I think I picked Arizona just because I want UCLA to beat them again. Not the greatest bracket strategy.
2007-03-08 12:49:42
21.   Bob Timmermann
There is a montage on the board of fans singing their school's fight songs.

Everybody sang the words except for the Stanford guy who just went "un un unn unnh" to the beat of "All Right Now."

2007-03-08 12:53:00
22.   Penarol1916
Just got back from watching the insane Georgetown- Villanova game, how can you be up 26-2 and end up winning by only 5?
2007-03-08 12:58:22
23.   D4P
With 3:26 remaining in the first half, Oregon has yet to attempt a free throw
2007-03-08 13:01:02
24.   trainwreck
Defense from Budinger?
2007-03-08 13:02:23
25.   D4P
Maaaaarty Leunen just picked up his 3rd foul for Oregon. That's not good for the Ducks.
2007-03-08 13:05:35
26.   Bob Timmermann
What is the name of the Oregon fight song?
2007-03-08 13:07:09
27.   D4P
I think it's "Mighty Oregon". It's a catchy tune.
2007-03-08 13:08:24
28.   Bob Timmermann
Arizona doesn't foul much. It is a byproduct of not playing a lot of defense.
2007-03-08 13:09:23
29.   trainwreck
By the way D4P, Dana just announced Tito vs Rashad in May.
2007-03-08 13:10:32
30.   bhsportsguy
26 And I was trying to help Bob out, yes it is "Mighty Oregon" The song was performed in 1916.

Here are the current lyrics:

Oregon, our Alma Mater,
We will guard thee on and on,
Let us gather 'round and cheer her,
Chant her glory, Oregon!
Roar the praises of her warriors,
Sing the story, Oregon,
On to victory urge the heroes
Of our Mighty Oregon!

Go! Ducks! Go!
Fight! Ducks! Fight!
Win! Ducks! Win!

The original words to "Mighty Oregon" were as follows:

She is small our Alma Mater
But she rules with strength and right,
What she lacks in mass and numbers
She makes up for in her fight
Oregon is never beaten
'Till the final whistles call.
Who can tell her tale of triumph?
Scores can never show it all.

Oregon, our Alma Mater
We will guard thee on and on
Fellows gather round and cheer her
Chant her glory Oregon
Roar the praises of her warriors
Sing the story Oregon
Down the gridiron urge the heroes
Of our mighty Oregon.

Rally fellows, stand behind them,
They are doing all they can.
Back the team in sun and shadow,
Back the captain, back each man.
They will carry home the vict'ry
To old Deady's hallowed hall.
Give the team the best that's in you.
Give your Alma Mater

2007-03-08 13:11:52
31.   dianagramr
Why is 4-27 Idaho playing in its (WAC) conference tourney?

Its a 9-team division, in which they finished last, and they got to play the #1 seed in the opening round after beating the #8 seed in a play-in game.

Nice to play 16 conference games to eliminate no one from the conference tourney ...

Money money money

2007-03-08 13:13:05
32.   D4P
I saw that. That's a bad fight for Tito, but there aren't really many good fights left for him. He either fights complete cans, or guys like Rashad who will probably beat him. I'm kinda surprised the UFC would set that up, given that the loser is gonna take a pretty big hit. Tito's a huge star, and they don't want him losing. But Rashad's on his way up, and you wouldn't think they'd want him losing either.

Tito should probably retire, except he's making too much money now.

2007-03-08 13:14:44
33.   Jon Weisman
The Stanford hymn:

Where the rolling foothills rise,
Up t'wards mountains higher,
Where at eve the Coast Range lies
in the sunset fire,
Flushing deep and paling;
Here we raise our voices hailing
Thee, our Alma Mater.

From the foothills to the bay,
It shall ring,
As we sing,
It shall ring and float away;
Hail, Stanford hail!
Hail, Stanford Hail!

2007-03-08 13:15:10
34.   bhsportsguy
30 In case Bob wanted to join in the singing.
2007-03-08 13:15:14
35.   D4P
Arizona doesn't foul much

At the half, the fouls were even (6-6), but the free throws were infinitely in Arizona's favor (5-0)

2007-03-08 13:16:59
36.   bhsportsguy
33 Jon, I know that SC fans/alums are famous for taking out their car keys when doing their cheering (at least that is the urban myth), what, if anything are Stanford fans/alums known to do to really annoy Cal fans?
2007-03-08 13:19:58
37.   Jon Weisman
36 - I haven't been to a Stanford-Cal game in about 10 years or so, but the answer to that question used to generally be, "Win."

I thought people shook car keys at USC fans, not the reverse.

2007-03-08 13:26:53
38.   D4P
Gasp: a shooting foul called on Arizona...!
2007-03-08 13:27:23
39.   trainwreck
I guess they figure they can always use inexperience as an excuse for Rashad, but the fact is Tito has never been elite, he is just good.
2007-03-08 13:30:45
40.   D4P
True, Tito has always been overrated. But Rashad better plan on winning prior to a decision.
2007-03-08 13:31:18
41.   D4P
When Oregon shoots over 60% on 3-pointers, they're tough to beat
2007-03-08 13:31:53
42.   trainwreck
Rashad should just shoot everytime.
2007-03-08 13:34:49
43.   Bob Timmermann
It is UCLA fans who wave car keys at USC, usually during the playing of "Conquest." I've always found it petty. Most UCLA fans are just as wealthy and privileged as USC fans. It is done more out of a sense of self-righteousness, a trait taught in a mandatory class for freshmen at UCLA. Or at least those who are big fans of sports.

Cal fans lean more to throwing objects and swearing loudly at USC or Stanford

Arizona doesn't get called for a lot of shooting fouls because they don't contest shots.

2007-03-08 13:35:42
44.   D4P
The only way to lose to Tito is to be in his guard. Avoid that, and you'll win. Tito's wresting is overrated. He's good once he's on top, but he's not that good at getting there in the first place (other than against Ken Shamrock...)
2007-03-08 13:37:48
45.   D4P
Arizona doesn't get called for a lot of shooting fouls because they don't contest shots

I prefer the "blatant official bias" explanation

2007-03-08 13:43:27
46.   bhsportsguy
43 Personally, I never saw it done, so I was misinformed.
2007-03-08 13:43:39
47.   Bob Timmermann
UCLA went a long time against Arizona in Tempe before shooting free throws. Arizona had to hack a lot at the end to put UCLA on the line
2007-03-08 13:47:14
48.   trainwreck
Facing Oregon again will be troublesome.
2007-03-08 13:56:38
49.   D4P
Facing Oregon again will be troublesome

The Ducks pretty much live and die by the Three. Can they be expected to shoot this well in the next game...?

In the words of Nelson (another band who didn't make the Definitive 200 list), "Only time will tell"

2007-03-08 13:58:14
50.   Bob Timmermann
The Oregon band played "Come on Eileen" during the timeout.
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2007-03-08 14:00:31
51.   trainwreck
Oregon is a lot more threatening than Arizona, that is for sure.
2007-03-08 14:01:08
52.   trainwreck
Is that ASU fan back?
2007-03-08 14:02:24
53.   D4P
This game is not over yet. Plenty of time for Oregon to choke.
2007-03-08 14:02:54
54.   trainwreck
It is over! No need to worry D4P.
2007-03-08 14:06:41
55.   Jon Weisman
The key for Bob is how far behind schedule the tournament is running. So far, not too bad? What's the interval between games?
2007-03-08 14:07:52
56.   bhsportsguy
This game should guarantee a top 6 or better seed for Oregon and will probably make Arizona a 9 seed.
2007-03-08 14:10:07
57.   bhsportsguy
If the UCLA game time is 2:50 p.m. then they should be okay.
2007-03-08 14:12:40
58.   bhsportsguy
Bob, are you giving that Oregon guy a standing ovation?
2007-03-08 14:19:38
59.   bhsportsguy
I wonder if Lute will let the team grab a shower before boarding a bus and heading back to Arizona.
2007-03-08 14:24:21
60.   Bob Timmermann
Sorry connectivity issues now.

I did wear a green and yellow baseball cap although it wasn't for Oregon.

I will be on the same side as the Straw Hat Band.

The game should start right on time at 2:50 pm. Then we all leave when it's over and go forage. I already have a place in mind.

Cal fans are few here today. It is a big UCLA contingent.

The Arizona fans who are staying look sullen

2007-03-08 14:25:12
61.   Sam DC
My bracket looks sullen.
2007-03-08 14:26:18
62.   D4P
I already have a place in mind

Protein Berry Pizazz...?

2007-03-08 14:26:43
63.   Bob Timmermann
Sorry connectivity issues now.

I did wear a green and yellow baseball cap although it wasn't for Oregon.

I will be on the same side as the Straw Hat Band.

The game should start right on time at 2:50 pm. Then we all leave when it's over and go forage. I already have a place in mind.

Cal fans are few here today. It is a big UCLA contingent.

The Arizona fans who are staying look sullen

2007-03-08 14:29:29
64.   D4P
I already have a place in mind

Protein Berry Pizazz...?

2007-03-08 14:36:46
65.   bhsportsguy
"The Pantry", nope, he already works at Richard Riordan Library, why would he eat at his restaurant.

"The Palm" nahh, no time for a 6 lb. lobster tail.

"Fox Sports Grill", no, possible Paul Wesphal sigthing.
Maybe he is going to "The Liberty Grill", I have heard good things, it is located at 1037 Flower St., (213) 746-3400

2007-03-08 14:39:24
66.   Humma Kavula
MMMmmmmmm. The Palm.
2007-03-08 14:47:02
67.   Bob Timmermann
Probably a sandwich from the Famima store.

Trying again, everybody picked UCLA to win. There are, I thinkN four people who have picked Oregon to beat UCLA.

2007-03-08 14:50:12
68.   Bob Timmermann
What is the only school UCLA has never played in the Pac Ten tournament?
2007-03-08 14:52:20
69.   D4P
2007-03-08 14:55:23
70.   trainwreck
2007-03-08 14:57:00
71.   Bob Timmermann
UCLA played Stanford in 1989
2007-03-08 14:57:46
72.   trainwreck
2007-03-08 14:59:26
73.   trainwreck
I am just going to keep guessing Pac-10 schools. Next on the list is Oregon.
2007-03-08 14:59:29
74.   Bob Timmermann
Two down, seven to go
2007-03-08 15:00:36
75.   trainwreck
So apparently some white members of the USC football team started a racist Facebook group.
2007-03-08 15:00:44
76.   Bob Timmermann
We will flip them all over. The answer is:


2007-03-08 15:00:59
77.   trainwreck

Next up WSU.

2007-03-08 15:06:08
78.   ToyCannon
How can you forget Denny's?
2007-03-08 15:06:16
79.   trainwreck
After all that talk this week, UCLA has come out shooting blanks.
2007-03-08 15:09:36
80.   Bob Timmermann
Cal's cheerleaders don't wear shoes.
2007-03-08 15:11:53
81.   D4P
Cal's cheerleaders don't wear shoes

Bear feet...?

2007-03-08 15:15:44
82.   Uncle Miltie
So apparently some white members of the USC football team started a racist Facebook group.
Shocking. I just read the article about it. Apparently it was an inside joke between the players on the team to give out the nickname "White Nation" to a few players on the team.

Nice win for Oregon, but it won't matter when UCLA blows them out.

I really underrated Tajuan Porter. Can someone explain to me how Chamberlain Oguchi received a basketball scholarship?

2007-03-08 15:16:43
83.   Bob Timmermann
The Cal cheerleaders do wear flesh-colored tights (color varies obviously)m
2007-03-08 15:17:03
84.   trainwreck
UCLA won't make it playing like this.
2007-03-08 15:21:37
85.   Uncle Miltie
Bob, put something in Ryan Anderson's Gatorade now.
2007-03-08 15:22:17
86.   Bob Timmermann
12 minutes in and UCLA has just 3 threes from Shipp, a tip in by Mata and two FTs
2007-03-08 15:23:25
87.   Jon Weisman
84 - You mean, UCLA can't win for losing?
2007-03-08 15:25:41
88.   Vishal
the bears came out like gangbusters yesterday too, only to give almost all of it back in the 2nd half... though hopefully they won't relax today because it's ucla and not oregon state. and also i don't think they're going to get up by 25 today either. in the bracket, i picked ucla to win today but who cares. go bears!
2007-03-08 15:27:12
89.   Samuel
Unfortunately, we don't have a tv in my research lab, so I'm stuck following this game on ESPN/Yahoo gamecast.

Hopefully we can keep this up for the rest of the game while I'm in class for the next couple of hours. Go Bears!

2007-03-08 15:29:30
90.   Uncle Miltie
I think Collison may be even better than Baron Davis (when he was at UCLA).
2007-03-08 15:29:38
91.   Jon Weisman
a) UCLA has come from behind all season - don't panic.

b) UCLA is starting to remind me of that No. 1-ranked Stanford team that peaked too early in the season.

2007-03-08 15:34:41
92.   Bob Timmermann
The test for Cal comes in the second half when the effects of playing last night will kick in along with its lack of depth.

The only time the one seed lost its first game was in 2003 when UCLA upset Arizona in OT.

2007-03-08 15:36:23
93.   Bob Timmermann
Oops one seed OSU lost to eight seed ASU in 1990
2007-03-08 15:37:48
94.   trainwreck
AA with his 3rd. Eeek.
2007-03-08 15:38:14
95.   Uncle Miltie
There was no foul on Afflalo there. Shouldn't UCLA be getting the hometown calls?
2007-03-08 15:41:30
96.   Uncle Miltie
What's the record for the most 3's by an individual player in a Pac 10 tournament game, Bob?
2007-03-08 15:42:05
97.   Bob Timmermann
If Cal holds on, look for deep discounts for tomorrow's games.

And if USC loses too, then just get ready to stretch out.

2007-03-08 15:42:25
98.   Steve
I'm sorry to have doubted them. They are obviously road warriors.
2007-03-08 15:42:38
99.   trainwreck
Do the UCLA fans look sullen?
2007-03-08 15:43:53
100.   Daniel B
95 No one should be getting the home town calls.

Yeah that was a ticky-tack foul on Aflallo, but he should no better. When an offensive player i trying to push off, you don't reach in and make it look like you inintiatted the contact. Aflallo should have laid off there and drawn the foul.

#1 seed in the NCAA is looking awfully shaky...

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2007-03-08 15:44:18
101.   Bob Timmermann
I would say the UCLA fans are perplexed.
2007-03-08 15:44:30
102.   Vishal
i thought we cal folk [slightly] outnumbered ucla grads among the toaster posters.
2007-03-08 16:04:31
103.   trainwreck
FSN seems determined not to show the score.
2007-03-08 16:09:58
104.   Uncle Miltie
Cal is playing like Cal again.

UCLA still isn't playing great but they're coming back.

2007-03-08 16:13:19
105.   D4P
With 15:17 left in the 2nd half, UCLA is shooting 40% on FGs, FTs, and 3-point FGs
2007-03-08 16:14:43
106.   trainwreck
Did USC just come in the building? Because everyone just started booing.
2007-03-08 16:23:26
107.   Vishal
ugh. 2nd half team fouls: California 9, UCLA 1
2007-03-08 16:27:14
108.   Jon Weisman
91 - a)
2007-03-08 16:29:58
109.   Vishal
well, it was a nice first half, anyway.
2007-03-08 16:31:55
110.   Bob Timmermann
The earlier booing was at USC fans singing "Fight On" on the videoboard. There is a fight song karaoke machine that people appear on throughout the day.

It is always the same USC guy. The Oregon singers were three middle-aged women wearing home made Maarty Leunen tshirts.

2007-03-08 16:32:11
111.   Bob Timmermann
The earlier booing was at USC fans singing "Fight On" on the videoboard. There is a fight song karaoke machine that people appear on throughout the day.

It is always the same USC guy. The Oregon singers were three middle-aged women wearing home made Maarty Leunen tshirts.

2007-03-08 16:35:17
112.   Uncle Miltie
The Oregon singers were three middle-aged women wearing home made Maarty Leunen tshirts.
They must be related to Leunen.
2007-03-08 16:43:36
113.   Bob Timmermann
One AA gone. One AA on thin ice. Could there be a Ryan Wright sighting?
2007-03-08 16:52:55
114.   Vishal
come on bears..... just 2 minutes.
2007-03-08 16:53:29
115.   Uncle Miltie
come on bruins..... just 2 minutes.
2007-03-08 16:53:48
116.   Bob Timmermann
At this point I must say, it is really cold in here
2007-03-08 16:54:47
117.   Uncle Miltie
Mata's magical red beard helps him at the free throw line.
2007-03-08 16:55:41
118.   trainwreck
So Miltie wants Oregon to face UCLA.
2007-03-08 16:56:11
119.   Uncle Miltie
Miltie is a UCLA fan.
2007-03-08 16:57:05
120.   Vishal
2007-03-08 16:57:36
121.   Uncle Miltie
Collison is amazing.

UCLA can not allow Cal to get another open 3.

2007-03-08 16:58:28
122.   trainwreck
Need to put Luc on Anderson.
2007-03-08 16:59:34
123.   Vishal
oh wow, overtime.
2007-03-08 17:00:27
124.   Uncle Miltie
Or put Afflalo on Ubaka. It looked like Collison was guarding him on that last possession.
2007-03-08 17:01:36
125.   Bob Timmermann
Free basketball!
2007-03-08 17:02:22
126.   Uncle Miltie
Time for Afflalo to step up
2007-03-08 17:02:58
127.   trainwreck
Such a bad idea by Collison. He just scored on the last possession in seconds by driving. But on the last possession he dribbles around and waits to launch a long three.
2007-03-08 17:04:34
128.   Bob Timmermann
Timmermann's law

First team to lead by four or more in OT wins!

2007-03-08 17:06:59
129.   Uncle Miltie
My cable just froze.....
2007-03-08 17:08:40
130.   Bob Timmermann
Will my law be put to the test?
2007-03-08 17:08:42
131.   trainwreck
Timmerman's law is about to go into effect.
2007-03-08 17:08:56
132.   trainwreck


2007-03-08 17:10:24
133.   Vishal
how well-developed is this? can you just straight-out declare a law? doesn't it have to be a hypothesis first? or at least a theory? how about that? it's alliterative, even. the timmerman theory, corollary to lawler's law.
2007-03-08 17:10:38
134.   Uncle Miltie
UCLA's going to lose...
2007-03-08 17:11:09
135.   Humma Kavula
Laws are made to be broken.
2007-03-08 17:11:26
136.   trainwreck
#1 seed we hardly knew yee.
2007-03-08 17:11:27
137.   Vishal
darn, i did made the same typo. timmermann. apologies!
2007-03-08 17:11:50
138.   Uncle Miltie
UCLA deserves to lose after that defensive breakdown. How can you ignore Ubaka?
2007-03-08 17:12:28
139.   Vishal
6 points, 1 more minute. please don't blow this.
2007-03-08 17:13:23
140.   Bob Timmermann
The field of entries will be winnowed after this.

But an Oregon win tomorrow will be worth less

2007-03-08 17:13:29
141.   Jon Weisman
91 - b)
2007-03-08 17:13:46
142.   Vishal
30 seconds!~!
2007-03-08 17:14:20
143.   Uncle Miltie
So I'm guessing that you'll be cheering for Oregon, right Bob?
2007-03-08 17:16:15
144.   Vishal
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! what a game. man, i wish i could've seen it on television.
2007-03-08 17:16:38
145.   Humma Kavula
They fought the Law, but the Law won.
2007-03-08 17:16:51
146.   trainwreck
UCLA lost because we are simply stupid. Our team likes to launch threes for some reason when we constantly score or at least get a foul when we drive or get the ball in the post.
2007-03-08 17:20:20
147.   Steve
You know. Chaminade was technically a road win because that game was on chaminade's home court. My apologies to all UCLA fans.
2007-03-08 17:20:44
148.   Vishal
[143] why would he do that?
2007-03-08 17:21:26
149.   trainwreck
Well I will not be winning 5 amazon dollars.
2007-03-08 17:30:35
150.   Uncle Miltie
148- because Cal just embarrassed UCLA
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2007-03-08 17:35:26
151.   Vishal
[148] i understand his primary sympathies would lie with his alma mater UCLA, but i believe bob went to cal for grad school, so i would assume (or hope) that he's got at least some sort of sympathetic feelings toward the golden bears. i mean, i root for syracuse now that i go here, though not with as much intensity as i root for cal.
2007-03-08 17:36:39
152.   Bob Timmermann
I have a degree from Cal. I have no enmity.
2007-03-08 17:37:39
153.   Sam DC
2007-03-08 17:38:48
154.   Samuel
Running from the EE building to watch the last 30 seconds of OT in the Bear's Lair is the best thing I've ever done during a ditched class. Now time to e-mail my GSI to see what I missed in Music discussion...
2007-03-08 17:39:46
155.   trainwreck
I hope Brock does not start punching out students tomorrow.
2007-03-08 17:44:00
156.   Uncle Miltie
The Maryland turtle flipped off a sports writer

"Fear the turtle?
You're not going to believe this.

I'm in a hallway in the bowels of the St. Pete Times Forum, and it's just the two of us -- me and him, heading toward each other. We instantly recognize each other from our time together at Comcast Center. He in his shell, me in my heels.

Our eyes locked. I thought it was going to be friendly.

"Hey, I recognize you," I told Testudo, Maryland's mascot.

All I saw from him was one of his furry fingers.

Now, I can't tell you for sure which finger it was, or how many this turtle even has, but I must admit I spent my brief time in the ladies' room wondering what just happened.

A wave would have sufficed. I'm not sure what to think, other than now, I think I fear the turtle."

2007-03-08 17:51:53
157.   Marty
So, SC stayed in the tournament longer than UCLA. How about that!
2007-03-08 18:01:36
158.   Uncle Miltie
151- how do you like syracuse? I have a friend who goes there (for undergrad). From what she tells me, it's very cold there.
2007-03-08 18:03:15
159.   Bob Timmermann
The USC-Stanford picks are about 50/50.

More people took the Huskies than the Cougars.

I'm in the walkway eating my dinner, we cannot go to our seats until they are done cleaning. There was no place to eat outside in a timely manner.

I now have on a WSU sweatshirt over my UCLA shirt as it is still cold here. Someone should tell people that the Kings aren't playing tonight.

Although it is the PA announcer for the Kings working the games.

2007-03-08 18:04:28
160.   Uncle Miltie
Everyone turn on ESPN 2. NC State has a chance to beat Duke here.
2007-03-08 18:10:42
161.   Vishal
[158] the people are nice enough, but it's freezing balls here, and i'm sick of it. i'm heading home for spring break tomorrow and i can't wait. we had a negative 20 degree wind chill and blowing snow the other day. it's going to hit 92 on sunday at home.

but yeah, syracuse isn't bad but i am ready to get out of here. it's kind of a dull post-industrial town in the middle of nowhere.

2007-03-08 18:14:28
162.   Bob Timmermann
I'm on the Stanford end. The Cardinal have cheerleaders, but no band.

That could lead to a lot of airtime for the Trojan band.

2007-03-08 18:15:32
163.   trainwreck
lol you really have a WSU sweatshirt?
2007-03-08 18:17:46
164.   Bob Timmermann
I bought a WSU sweatshirt when I saw them play in the Rose Bowl against Michigan.

Tomorrow I wear the Berkeley sweatshirt.

2007-03-08 18:20:07
165.   Uncle Miltie
we had a negative 20 degree wind chill and blowing snow the other day.
ugh, that sounds awful. The girl I know loves to snowboard; I think that's part of the reason why she chose 'cuse.

Why Syracuse for grad school? I could never live on the East Coast :)

Tomorrow I wear the Berkeley sweatshirt.
Does your Redding sweatshirt not fit anymore?

2007-03-08 18:21:06
166.   Bob Timmermann
I hope Oregon washes the white unis. They will be used again. Wazzu now can send the red jerseys home.
2007-03-08 18:21:17
167.   Samuel

I dislike both bands. Unfortunately I think I'd rather have Stanford cancel out USC's rather than hear USC's stupid band all day long. At least it's not like football where USC's band goes off after every single play.

2007-03-08 18:23:48
168.   Bob Timmermann
No band. No tree.
The Trojans are 2-1 against the Cardinal in the Pac-10 tourney.
2007-03-08 18:23:53
169.   trainwreck
Well at least Duke lost as well.
2007-03-08 18:24:29
170.   Uncle Miltie
Duke loses. Duke does not deserve to be in the tournament.
2007-03-08 18:26:02
171.   Bob Timmermann
Plenty of empty seats here at Staples.
2007-03-08 18:26:40
172.   D4P
I hope Miltie is planning on attending Duck sporting events next year
2007-03-08 18:28:44
173.   D4P
The caption on the photo on the CBS Sportline front page:

Alfred Aboya and UCLA didn't except a game from California

2007-03-08 18:29:19
174.   trainwreck
Surprised by lack of SC turn out.

Okay, maybe not.

2007-03-08 18:29:45
175.   Bob Timmermann
Stanford has brought recorded music of its band.
2007-03-08 18:30:50
176.   Uncle Miltie
I hope Miltie is planning on attending Duck sporting events next year
To cheer for UCLA?

I go to Division II games at my school, but that's mainly to support friends I have on the baseball/basketball team.

Do you need to camp out for Ducks basketball tickets? I'm sure I'll go to almost all of the football games.

2007-03-08 18:32:12
177.   trainwreck
Stanford suddenly short on money.
2007-03-08 18:33:18
178.   Vishal
[165] i'm studying international relations and public administration. the maxwell school at SU is the best in the nation for PA and is well-regarded for IR as well. plus, the program seemed to have a lot good offerings and opportunities in my area of interest, and everyone here was exceedingly nice, so i thought, why not? it's likely i may end up in DC anyway, so heading east for grad school wasn't such a big deal.
2007-03-08 18:35:10
179.   D4P
To cheer for UCLA?

Absolutely not, though my friends can tell you about an infamous occasion on which I was fed up with a particular Oregon-UCLA football game (with Cade McKnown at QB) and started rooting for UCLA.

Do you need to camp out for Ducks basketball tickets?

I doubt it. I don't know how it works now, but it used to be that you would go show your ID at the EMU (Erb Memorial Union) and they'd give you a ticket. The tickets get you into the student section, which is first come first served, so if you want a good seat you get there early and stand outside before they open the doors. For the big games, I think people would get there an hour before the doors open.

2007-03-08 18:43:53
180.   Uncle Miltie
Absolutely not, though my friends can tell you about an infamous occasion on which I was fed up with a particular Oregon-UCLA football game (with Cade McKnown at QB) and started rooting for UCLA.
I was kidding, well kind of. I don't think I could ever cheer for another team over UCLA in basketball. Even my dad, who is a Maryland alumnus, cheers for UCLA. For football, I really wouldn't mind changing allegiances.
For the big games, I think people would get there an hour before the doors open.
Would that leave me enough time for pre-gaming (if it's an afternoon game)?

178- that makes sense. Syracuse is a good school; I just don't think I'd be able to handle the weather back east.

2007-03-08 18:49:51
181.   D4P
Would that leave me enough time for pre-gaming

Not exactly sure what "pre-gaming" means, but I assume it includes consuming spirits and such

2007-03-08 18:50:16
182.   Vishal
well, your body gets used to the temperatures and you figure out how to dress and stuff within about a week or two after winter really begins. it's just the length of it that wears you out.
2007-03-08 18:51:15
183.   Bob Timmermann
The crowd is filling in a bit, but I think a lot of UCLA fans bought seats for all the sessions. The secondary market will be busy.
2007-03-08 18:52:12
184.   D4P
I can't decide which I would think is worse: super cold temperatures, or hot and humid temperatures. The summers in NC really suck.
2007-03-08 18:56:13
185.   Vishal
[183] how... presumptuous of them.
2007-03-08 18:56:37
186.   Vishal
[184] you could go to wisconsin; they have both.
2007-03-08 18:58:05
187.   Bob Timmermann
The PA keeps calling Brook Lopez "Brock"
2007-03-08 18:58:26
188.   D4P
Yeah, or Minnesota. Yuck. I like Oregon weather.
2007-03-08 18:59:51
189.   Bob Timmermann
The bass player in the USC band looks to be my age.
2007-03-08 19:03:48
190.   trainwreck
That fall probably just knocked his GPA down a bit.
2007-03-08 19:08:39
191.   trainwreck
At least one of the teams I picked in the finals is producing.
2007-03-08 19:09:33
192.   Bob Timmermann
It is shaping up to be:

Bay Area 2
L.A. 0

2007-03-08 19:42:00
193.   trainwreck
I wonder if some more Cal fans will make their way down to Los Angeles. They should at least get a few more fans just because it will be the weekend.
2007-03-08 19:44:11
194.   Bob Timmermann
Quite a few Ducks fan are around for the nightcap.

No doubt they are here to show EQUAL support for their Northwest brethren later.

2007-03-08 19:51:02
195.   Bob Timmermann
More likely it would be Cal alums in the area who would show up.

Wazzu is having a big party tonight.

2007-03-08 19:53:57
196.   Bob Timmermann
The USC fans are making themselves heard now.
2007-03-08 20:06:28
197.   trainwreck
I think I will root for Washington St to win it now.
2007-03-08 20:19:36
198.   Daniel Zappala
The box score keeps showing USC missing a shot, Stanford making the rebound, and then USC missing another shot. What's going on?
2007-03-08 20:24:04
199.   Bob Timmermann
Computer error?
2007-03-08 20:25:34
200.   Bob Timmermann
USC down 2 with the ball and 23 seconds left.
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2007-03-08 20:25:56
201.   D4P
Anthony couldn't come up with the goods there
2007-03-08 20:27:17
202.   Bob Timmermann
Tied up with 5 seconds left. Stanford ball frontcourt
2007-03-08 20:28:54
203.   Bob Timmermann
More free basketball! Time to test Timmermann's Law again!
2007-03-08 20:29:21
204.   Uncle Miltie
The bass player in the USC band looks to be my age.
It's possible. After all, Taj Gibson is a freshman on the basketball team.

OT...again. Go Cardinal!

2007-03-08 20:42:13
205.   trainwreck
Awesome, I am 0-3 today.
2007-03-08 20:42:37
206.   Sam DC
Gack -- all results bad.
2007-03-08 20:44:26
207.   Uncle Miltie
USC showed a lot more intelligence than Stanford at the end of the game.
2007-03-08 20:45:20
208.   Jon Weisman
We lost a 12-point lead, missed two game-clinching free throws in regulation and blew up in overtime, and our all-conference player got hurt. That was a bad half-hour.
2007-03-08 20:46:23
209.   Jon Weisman
Did it?
2007-03-08 20:48:26
210.   trainwreck
So both of my championship game teams are out. I hope I do not have to pay if I finish in last.
2007-03-08 20:52:02
211.   Steve
Stanford obviously deserves a 9 seed. Maybe a 4 seed.
2007-03-08 20:52:05
212.   Uncle Miltie
209- yes, the only time USC will win in that department when being compared to Stanford.

The Stanford players can take solace in knowing that they are winners in the classroom. :)

2007-03-08 20:59:08
213.   Bob Timmermann
The battery is about dead on this thing, so enjoy the final game without my rejoinders. I will update the scores later tonight. I will have the likely winners I believe since UCLA's lost wiped out a lot of people.
2007-03-08 22:38:25
214.   Bill Crain
Looks like UCLA's loss wiped out everyone. If we all lose does Bob win? Or does the title escheat?
2007-03-08 22:49:38
215.   trainwreck
Well some people picked USC, Oregon, and WSU.
2007-03-08 23:19:24
216.   Uncle Miltie
I did not enter Bob's contest, but if I had, I think I would have picked Arizona. I thought they were going to be really motivated to play for a decent seed.
2007-03-09 00:37:21
217.   Bob Timmermann
I will doublecheck, but here is how it should shake out:

If the final is USC vs. Oregon and USC wins, Tom Meagher would win.

If the final is USC vs. Oregon and Oregon wins, the winner would be ... wait for it ... Trojan Ron.

If the final is Washington State vs. Oregon the winner would be Vishal, no matter who won the championship.

If Cal makes it to the final against USC and USC wins, I have a three-way tie to sort out and I've decided that Tom Meagher would win the tiebreaker over the two guys because he had more teams correct in the quarterfinals.

If Cal makes it to the final against USC and Cal wins, there would be a tie between D4P and Trojan Ron and there is no real good tiebreaker I could use, so I'd likely just give them both the prize mainly so D4P wouldn't bother me for the rest of my life.

If Cal makes it to the final against Washington State, and Washington State wins, Philip Michaels win. He would be tied with Vishal, but win the "picking the right champion" tiebreaker.

If Cal makes it to the final against Washington State, and Cal wins, then Vishal wins.

2007-03-09 06:07:00
218.   Sam DC
D4P will bother you regardless of how you handle the tie.

He's trying to climb to Toaster #6!

2007-03-09 08:19:23
219.   D4P
I am not sharing my prize with Prophylactic Ron...!
2007-03-09 10:06:10
220.   Bob Timmermann
Even though he picked Oregon?

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