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Pac-10 tournament: Day 4
2007-03-10 09:55
by Bob Timmermann

Although it's just been four days, it seems like it's been more like 96 hours (more precisely 90 hours) at Staples Center for me. And now it's almost time for the championship game (tipoff should be 3:10 pm PT) and the right for one team to automatically go to the NCAA championship game and then engage in a semantic battle with UCLA over who was the "Pac-10 champion."

Today's game will match up the Ducks of Oregon (25-7), the #4 seed, and the Trojans of Southern California (23-10), the #3 seed. This is a rematch of the 2003 final, which Oregon won 74-56. That year Oregon was the #5 seed and USC was the #7 seed.

The Ducks have cruised in their first two games, easily dispatching Arizona (69-50) and Cal (81-63). Tajuan Porter has made 11 of 16 three point shots and scored 45 points in the first two games. Porter is three three-pointers short of teammate Chamberlain Oguchi's record for most three pointers in a Pac-10 tournament. The Ducks shot 62.5% from the field against the Bears.

USC had a bad first half in its opener against Stanford, but then rallied for an 83-79 overtime win, and then avenged two regular season losses with a 70-61 win over Washington State. Gabe Pruitt has hit 10 of 13 three pointers in the first two games and was 6 of 7 against the Cougars.

USC beat Oregon both times in the regular season. The Trojans handed Oregon their first loss of the season after a 13-0 start with an 84-82 win in Eugene on January 4. USC led 84-81 when Aaron Brooks was fouled on a three-point attempt with one second left. Brooks, one of the best free throw shooters in the conference, made the first, then missed the second, and had to deliberately miss the third to give Oregon a chance at a putback which didn't happen.

The Trojans beat Oregon again in Los Angeles on February 3 by a 71-68 margin. The Trojans led throughout and the Ducks made a late comeback to make the score close. That was during a stretch when the Ducks lost 6 of 8 games. But the Ducks have won their last five.

This will be the 100th time that USC and Oregon have played each other in basketball. USC leads the series 58-41. Surprisingly, for teams that have played each other in football as early as 1915, the two teams did not play each other in basketball until 1957. By comparison, Oregon has played intrastate rival Oregon State 327 times. USC has played UCLA in basketball 223 times.

The hotly contested Griddle contest is down to just two contestants:
1) Trojan Ron, who has picked Oregon in the final.
2) Tom Meagher, who has chosen USC.

Here are the updated scores. Vishal would also end up with 7 points if Oregon wins, the same as Trojan Ron, but since Trojan Ron has picked both teams in the final, he gets the tiebreaker edge.

Comments (84)
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2007-03-10 13:28:28
1.   Another Tom
Wow, I picked the #3 seed to win the thing, they're in the finals and I'm not even in the hunt... Brutal!
2007-03-10 13:40:08
2.   Bob Timmermann
You'll end up a buck short.

You can thank Arizona for that.

2007-03-10 14:54:03
3.   Bob Timmermann
For the last day, I am looking live from Staples Center. This is the fifth session here for me and I've never had the same people sitting next to me.

I'm on the Oregon side of the court. The Ducks will be in green and not gold thankfully.

The crowd is not in a hurry to get here it seems. The lower and upper bowls are only half full now. Mostly USC fans in now.

2007-03-10 14:59:32
4.   trainwreck
I am going to go more chalk next year.
2007-03-10 15:01:59
5.   Bob Timmermann
Only four of ten tournaments have had a 1 vs 2 final.
2007-03-10 15:04:15
6.   Bob Timmermann
Only two tournaments have had seed one through four make the semis.

And one of those times, I was a UCLA student!

2007-03-10 15:08:12
7.   trainwreck
Yeah, but I would get more then 2 points.
2007-03-10 15:09:32
8.   Bob Timmermann
Oregon: Hairston, Taylor, Leunen, Brooks, Porter

USC: Lewis, Gibson, Pruitt, Stewart, Young

2007-03-10 15:17:51
9.   Uncle Miltie
Please tell me you aren't cheering for the hometown team, Bob...
2007-03-10 15:18:17
10.   Bob Timmermann
Oregon may have some matchup problems with Gibson. He is active early on the boards and Leunen seems a little wary. Catron is checking in.
2007-03-10 15:19:43
11.   Bob Timmermann
I bought a USC t-shirt in the souvenir shop. But that's for a kid I know who just got admitted there.
2007-03-10 15:22:21
12.   Uncle Miltie
But that's for a kid I know who just got admitted there.
I was getting worried.

Is The Greek God of Shoes at the Staples Center today?

2007-03-10 15:24:46
13.   trainwreck
Brooks is a better rebounder than Josh Shipp.
2007-03-10 15:24:54
14.   Bob Timmermann
Phil Knight doesn't send me his schedule anymore.
2007-03-10 15:31:59
15.   Uncle Miltie
#1 reason why Oregon is playing well in the tournament....

Chamberlain Oguchi is getting hardly any playing time.

2007-03-10 15:32:35
16.   trainwreck
UCLA football is going crazy with commitments today.
2007-03-10 15:33:06
17.   trainwreck
Oguchi is Miltie's Juan Pierre.
2007-03-10 15:36:00
18.   Bob Timmermann
Porter needs two more three pointers to match Oguchi's tournament record for multiple games.
2007-03-10 15:41:34
19.   Bob Timmermann
The Ducks are defending like UCLA or Washington State today.

It has been an impressive show so far. Pruitt has been neutralized and Young has been a nonfactor.

2007-03-10 15:41:57
20.   D4P
Once again, ESPN has "B Poppen-Abajian" in the Duck lineup
2007-03-10 15:45:56
21.   Bob Timmermann
Was there ever a player with that name on Oregon? Maybe he transferred and they didn't fix the computer number.
2007-03-10 15:46:59
22.   Bob Timmermann
I would say Staples is 80% full.
2007-03-10 15:49:16
23.   Bob Timmermann
Oguchi time!
2007-03-10 15:57:41
24.   Bob Timmermann
Overall a sharp first half by the Ducks. They aren't bombing the threes, but they've been able to take it inside pretty easily.

Gibson needs some help inside as he can't do it all for USC.

2007-03-10 16:04:27
25.   D4P
Was there ever a player with that name on Oregon?

Not that I know of. When you click on his name, it says he's a freshman for Pacific Lutheran.

2007-03-10 16:05:34
26.   Bob Timmermann
I give USC's cheerleaders extra marks over Oregon because they perform to live music

Oregon is doing the same routine as the past two days. There's only so many times you want to hear "These boots are made for walking."

2007-03-10 16:07:01
27.   Bob Timmermann

Then I've got nothing.

2007-03-10 16:12:00
28.   D4P
I'm surprised Oregon is ever able to out-rebound their opponents, given their guard-centric lineup
2007-03-10 16:14:26
29.   trainwreck
I think Taylor might be in the zone.
2007-03-10 16:15:26
30.   D4P
I just found out that the game is on TV here
2007-03-10 16:16:27
31.   D4P
I don't even really know what the Duck players look like
2007-03-10 16:17:04
32.   Bob Timmermann
Leunen was third in the conference in rebounds. Oregon was a +2.7 per game in rebounding margin. Washington was first in that category at 9.
2007-03-10 16:18:49
33.   D4P
Maarty's the maan
2007-03-10 16:18:49
34.   Bob Timmermann
Leunen is the white guy. Brooks is the short guy without the headband. Porter is the short guy WITH a headband.
2007-03-10 16:19:38
35.   D4P
I sure hope the Ducks don't choke in the Big Dance. They're playing ridiculously well right now.
2007-03-10 16:20:33
36.   Bob Timmermann
Taylor is Jon Weisman's favorite Duck!
2007-03-10 16:21:20
37.   D4P
That was one of the uglier (made) dunk attempts I've seen in quite a while
2007-03-10 16:22:51
38.   D4P
Wow! Porter is awesome.
2007-03-10 16:22:55
39.   Bob Timmermann
Porter's thirteenth three of the tourney!
2007-03-10 16:24:42
40.   D4P
Taj Por ter!
Taj Por ter!
Taj Por ter!
2007-03-10 16:26:22
41.   D4P
Oregon hasn't played this well since the Tall Timbers.


Holy Crap!

2007-03-10 16:26:42
42.   Uncle Miltie
USC is getting manhandled!
2007-03-10 16:27:06
43.   Bob Timmermann
Someone should check Trojan Ron's wishlist to see what he is going to spend the five bucks on.
2007-03-10 16:28:00
44.   D4P
One day soon, Miltie, you too can be a part of the Oregon experience...
2007-03-10 16:30:30
45.   trainwreck
No first Pac-10 tourney title for SC.
2007-03-10 16:30:33
46.   D4P
For each point USC has scored, Oregon has scored 2
2007-03-10 16:30:49
47.   D4P
2007-03-10 16:31:04
48.   trainwreck
Taylor is going insane!!
2007-03-10 16:32:05
49.   D4P
This is the best basketball team I've ever seen!
2007-03-10 16:32:19
50.   Bob Timmermann
The margin of victory record in this tournament is 32.
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2007-03-10 16:33:35
51.   Uncle Miltie
1. Oregon beating USC
2. The L.A. Riots
3. The 94 Northridge quake
2007-03-10 16:34:26
52.   Bob Timmermann
USC is now 13 of 46 from the field.
2007-03-10 16:35:33
53.   D4P
The record is safe for now, as Oregon leads by only 31
2007-03-10 16:37:41
54.   D4P
Three-pointers are as easy as layups
2007-03-10 16:37:48
55.   Uncle Miltie
You think Dick Enberg is enjoying this?
2007-03-10 16:38:20
56.   D4P
Bryce Taylor: 11-11, 7-7 from downtown
2007-03-10 16:38:55
57.   trainwreck
Oregon would probably beat any team in the country if they shoot like this.
2007-03-10 16:39:20
58.   D4P
Yep. Problem is, of course, that they can't always shoot like this.
2007-03-10 16:39:46
59.   Bob Timmermann
The USC fans are heading for the exits in large numbers.
2007-03-10 16:41:18
60.   Bob Timmermann
But Bryce Taylor already is in Downtown!
2007-03-10 16:41:21
61.   D4P
Oregon has made 13 3s. USC has made 15 FGs.
2007-03-10 16:42:13
62.   D4P
Hey Bob - Run out onto the middle of the court so we can see you
2007-03-10 16:43:18
63.   Bob Timmermann
Oguchi's record is safe!
2007-03-10 16:45:08
64.   Uncle Miltie
The human victory cigar, Chamberlain Oguchi, is now in the game. Kent should tell him to do what he always does, jack up as many threes as he can.
2007-03-10 16:46:40
65.   Bob Timmermann
When Oguchi hit 14 treys last year in the tourney, he took 38 attempts.
2007-03-10 16:49:08
66.   Bob Timmermann
The Ducks likely won't break the margin of victory record or be the second team to crack the century mark in points.
2007-03-10 16:50:00
67.   D4P
Yeah, Oregon's scrubs aren't very good
2007-03-10 16:51:51
68.   Bob Timmermann
The record margin of victory in the final is 26 by Arizona over OSU in 1988.
2007-03-10 16:54:14
69.   trainwreck
Does USC deserve a player of the game?
2007-03-10 16:54:30
70.   Steve
Score from non-Pac 10 (i.e., real) basketball game:

BYU 37

2007-03-10 16:57:40
71.   Bob Timmermann
Trojan Ron takes the prize!

Appreciate the irony!

2007-03-10 16:59:48
72.   D4P
No offense to the prize giver, but I think I'd rather have my team win the tourney than have myself win the prize
2007-03-10 17:04:47
73.   Uncle Miltie
72- that was more than a victory.

If USC was an animal, PETA would show up at Oregon's door demanding an arrest be made.

2007-03-10 17:06:32
74.   Bob Timmermann
I'm not offended. I'm just emotionally wrecked now because my parents didn't send me to an MWC college.
2007-03-10 17:06:57
75.   D4P
I can't help but feel that Oregon has set their fans and themselves up for a disappointing March Madness experience
2007-03-10 17:08:02
76.   D4P
Yeah. You missed out on Real Basketball™.
2007-03-10 17:21:20
77.   Steve
If you like hack fests and 30 point blowouts, the PAC 10 is the place to be. Meanwhile two Top 20 teams are killing each other and babies are being thrown from the top deck in Vegas.
2007-03-10 17:35:15
78.   Bob Timmermann
I'm going to have a seance and ask my mom why she didn't let me attend Wyoming.
2007-03-10 17:35:41
79.   Uncle Miltie
babies are being thrown from the top deck in Vegas.
And people are being murdered and stuffed into the trunk of their cars (Jerry Tarkanian reference)
2007-03-10 17:46:37
80.   Steve
UNLV rains death from above.
2007-03-10 17:52:47
81.   Bob Timmermann
The MWC is on Versus?

I guess the conference wants to be as equally invisible as the Pac-10.

2007-03-10 17:55:54
82.   Steve
The MWC had a snit with ESPN a couple of years ago.

Both these teams can rain death from above, but I wouldn't trust either one in a free throw war, and BYU less so.

2007-03-10 18:41:28
So I just got back from Staples, and go onto espn's homepage and there is nothing about the game. Taylor scores 32 points without missing a shot while being responsible for guarding a likely 1st round draft pick in Nick Young, and there's nothing. I just dont get it, I mean Nike U just won a "championship", shouldn't ESPN be contractually obliged to tell us how big Oregon's heart and soul are.
2007-03-10 18:44:17
And I say all this as an SC fan who saw the line of this game (-1 USC), laughed, said shoot my money and heart are on different sides for this one.

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