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CONCACAF Gold Cup Final chat: Noon PT
2007-06-24 11:32
by Bob Timmermann

By popular demand (and it only takes about two people), you can have at it here about the USA-Mexico finale from Soldier Field in Chicago.

Comments (80)
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2007-06-24 12:03:02
1.   Hallux Valgus
I am disgusted with the construction of the Copa America side, so we'd better win today.
2007-06-24 12:03:41
2.   Greg Brock
The two teams don't care for each other very much.
2007-06-24 12:06:32
3.   Hallux Valgus
Ooh, Landon Donovan looks tough with his stubble.
2007-06-24 12:07:19
4.   Hallux Valgus
Wow, Soldier Field is packed (relatively speaking)
2007-06-24 12:14:11
5.   mehmattski
It's pretty loud in there. Lot of Mexicans in Chicago, then? Or the continued inability of US fans to come up with good cheers?
2007-06-24 12:15:33
6.   Hallux Valgus
5 Lots of Mexicans. I've been to a few national matches, and I've never seen the Americans have an edge in fans. The fans that do show, however, are fantastic.
2007-06-24 12:21:11
7.   Greg Brock
El Tri manages to do at leas one Bush League thing on the field every four or five minutes.
2007-06-24 12:22:47
8.   Greg Brock
Oh come on...
2007-06-24 12:22:56
9.   mehmattski
That was close. Nice cross by Donovan.
2007-06-24 12:23:08
10.   Hallux Valgus
2007-06-24 12:23:43
11.   Hallux Valgus
7 there you go...
2007-06-24 12:23:43
12.   mehmattski
7But do they call "I got it!" when the ball is in the air? Because that would be inexcusable.
2007-06-24 12:27:02
13.   Greg Brock
2007-06-24 12:31:23
14.   Greg Brock
Oh me oh my.
2007-06-24 12:33:06
15.   Hallux Valgus
I thought Bornstein was a Bradley pick based on familiarity alone. He has proven me wrong repeately. That was a nice strike.
2007-06-24 12:35:18
16.   Greg Brock
Not a big Bradley fan. They've won and all, but not impressively, and this conservative play drives me crazy.

Not getting Klinsmann really chaps my hide. All these athletes we have would attack, attack, attack.

2007-06-24 12:35:55
17.   mehmattski
Dive, again.
2007-06-24 12:36:37
18.   Hallux Valgus
jeez- Castillo is making the US back line look foolish. I'm very worried. We look slow today.
2007-06-24 12:38:35
19.   Hallux Valgus
16 I agree. I gave him a mulligan based on the interim tag, but now that he's the guy, the team is still playing conservatively.

I'm still waiting on why we didn't get Klinsmann. I haven't heard a good explanation.

2007-06-24 12:39:02
20.   Hallux Valgus
oh please. DIVE
2007-06-24 12:43:02
21.   mehmattski
HAHAHAHA. You left your shorts over there, sir.
2007-06-24 12:43:58
22.   Greg Brock
19 Had to be money. They negotiated forever, and then he backed out of consideration.

Pay the man whatever he wants.

2007-06-24 12:45:51
23.   Greg Brock
Sanchez. Grrr.
2007-06-24 12:47:49
24.   Hallux Valgus

22 I think you're right, but I refuse that we can't pay. Unacceptable.

And Mexico continues to outrun us in their scoring end

2007-06-24 12:49:46
25.   Hallux Valgus
We have had far too many breakdowns from the back line this tournament. The answer is not to drop Bocanegra for Copa America. Onyewu, I can live with.
2007-06-24 12:50:08
26.   Greg Brock
Drat. We are getting dominated.
2007-06-24 12:50:24
27.   Hallux Valgus

Sometimes I hate being right.

2007-06-24 12:50:57
28.   mehmattski
Where the hell was Donovan on that?
2007-06-24 12:52:25
29.   Greg Brock
This is the kind of listless garbage that exemplified the last years of Arena's tenure. And now we get it with Bradley.

Sigh. I want energy.

2007-06-24 12:53:26
30.   Hallux Valgus
28 I don't think that was on Donovan. Who's starting at right back with Hejduk out? Spector? Whoever it was, he wasn't there.
2007-06-24 12:54:05
31.   mehmattski
"Sigh. I want goals."


2007-06-24 12:54:43
32.   mehmattski
30 You're correct. I had my sides mixed up, Donovan is playing left half now.
2007-06-24 12:57:20
33.   Hallux Valgus
After checking, it is indeed Spector/ Onyewu on the right side. I have never been impressed with Onyewu, and this match is further testament to that. Somewhere, Jimmy Conrad is shaking his head.
2007-06-24 12:58:16
34.   Hallux Valgus
And checking the Dodgers game, my day is pretty much ruined.
2007-06-24 13:10:55
35.   xaphor
You're only down by one and their manager is in a pink shirt; no need to panic.
2007-06-24 13:11:04
36.   Hallux Valgus
there you go, Brock. Apparently Ricardo Clark= energy.
2007-06-24 13:12:30
37.   Hallux Valgus
2007-06-24 13:12:36
38.   Greg Brock


2007-06-24 13:15:21
39.   mehmattski
Could the US forwards be any more unlucky?
2007-06-24 13:16:12
40.   Greg Brock
Tim Howard's Tourette's looks like it's acting up.
2007-06-24 13:18:25
41.   mehmattski
Jesus, Clint.
2007-06-24 13:19:07
42.   Hallux Valgus
For the past week, Dempsey on one timers has looked like Matt Kemp on curve balls.
2007-06-24 13:21:03
43.   Greg Brock
Seems like getting a ball in the net is an impossible feat today.
2007-06-24 13:25:14
44.   mehmattski
OK Landon, don't fuck this up.
2007-06-24 13:25:20
45.   Greg Brock
Please put this in the net.

Brilliant turn by Ching.

2007-06-24 13:26:27
46.   Hallux Valgus
43 And there's little chance this will change in Copa America.


2007-06-24 13:26:40
47.   Greg Brock
2007-06-24 13:28:10
48.   Hallux Valgus
okay, Donovan has the exact same PK always. Fake left, shoot low to the right. Do keepers not have access to scouting?
2007-06-24 13:29:32
49.   Greg Brock
Donovan is still a woman.
2007-06-24 13:33:17
50.   mehmattski
Good substitution.
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2007-06-24 13:33:40
51.   Hallux Valgus
Dempsey is my favorite player, but this is still a good substitution. He's played like hell.
2007-06-24 13:37:31
52.   Greg Brock
Good Lord.


2007-06-24 13:37:32
53.   mehmattski
2007-06-24 13:37:50
54.   Hallux Valgus
2007-06-24 13:38:08
55.   Greg Brock
There will be much anger in Mexico if this result holds.


2007-06-24 13:39:16
56.   mehmattski
Where were those kinds of strikes last summer?
2007-06-24 13:39:47
57.   Bob Timmermann
Since I have no TV and am at work, may I ask what the present score is?
2007-06-24 13:40:23
58.   mehmattski
You've got to be kidding me, Ching.
2007-06-24 13:40:30
59.   Greg Brock

And Ching goes post. Near goal.

2007-06-24 13:40:56
60.   mehmattski
57 2-1 USA, 75th minute. Ching should have made it 3-1 there but hit the post with the Sanchez on the ground.
2007-06-24 13:40:56
61.   Hallux Valgus
They were with Feilhaber. He was sitting at home because of Claudio Reyna.

Claudio Reyna: USMNT:: Nomar Garciaparra: Los Angeles Dodgers.


2007-06-24 13:45:52
62.   Greg Brock
Claudio Reyna: USMNT:: Nomar Garciaparra: Los Angeles Dodgers

That is absolutely spot on.

2007-06-24 13:48:56
63.   Greg Brock
That breakaway was beyond weak.
2007-06-24 13:52:00
64.   Hallux Valgus
63 where was the help? No one came up to support. That's Arenas soccer at its finest.
2007-06-24 13:54:13
65.   mehmattski
I am fairly confident I could have made that run and scored there.
2007-06-24 13:54:23
66.   Greg Brock
You gotta be kidding me.

Beasley is an amazingly maddening player.

2007-06-24 13:54:29
67.   Hallux Valgus
thank god. still- too many breakdowns from the back line.

God DAMN BEASLEY. Finish. We will never be an international power with these finishes.

2007-06-24 13:55:32
68.   Greg Brock
One day we will have a player that can finish.

I don't know when, but someday.

2007-06-24 13:56:00
69.   Greg Brock
Or you can just read 67
2007-06-24 13:58:48
70.   Hallux Valgus
68 I thought that was going to be Dempsey. He's been underwhelming at best lately. What do we have to do to get Giussepe Rossi in the colors?
2007-06-24 13:59:14
71.   Hallux Valgus
2007-06-24 13:59:40
72.   Greg Brock
Gold Cup Champeeeeeeens!

What a complete turnaround from one half to another.

2007-06-24 14:00:05
73.   mehmattski
And yet, the US will still fail to get a World Cup seed over Mexico.
2007-06-24 14:02:33
74.   Hallux Valgus
Big credit to the fans. Filling Soldier Field for soccer is a big deal. Now let's hope we can do something (anything!) in the Copa.
2007-06-24 14:04:34
75.   Hallux Valgus
72 Like I told you- Ricardo Clark= energy. (sarcasm)
2007-06-24 14:07:15
76.   Greg Brock
The team wasn't the star. Feilhaber and Ching were the Men of the Match.
2007-06-24 14:13:53
77.   Hallux Valgus
and now we turn to the Copa America. Let's go, Herculez Gomez! FINISH!
2007-06-24 17:57:39
78.   underdog
Wow, what a crazy fantastic game. (I just watched it on TiVo.) That was indeed an amazing turnaround in the second half. Mexico, especially in the first half of the first half, were much more energized. Their keeper Sanchez was also amazing. What a great second half by the US, and some good substitutions I thought.

Yeah, Ching missed a chipper but I wouldn't blame him too much - he did what he had to do, made a nice turnaround move, and then chipped it over the keeper like he should have, but it just missed. Beasley, on the other hand, choked, pure and simple - there's no way on God's green astroturf that you should miss a shot like that. No matter, they won.

2007-06-24 18:00:33
79.   underdog
My Lord, does Mexico flop or what? It's so unnecessary because they have many great players, there's no need to audition for Broadway on some of those. More dives in that game than in a Greg Louganis retrospective. Drives me nuts. When the US and Canada played there were hardly any questionable falls and theatrics.
2007-06-24 18:05:40
80.   underdog
Btw, maybe this is just me but that announcer for Fox Soccer is really terrible. He's not only a pro-US homer (I guess that's forgivable - trying to get American audiences more involved in it all) but more annoying is how many wrong things he says. The other guy just ignored him half the time. It reminded me of Fred Willard and the British guy in Best in Show for some reason. I don't remember being that annoyed by him before, though.

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