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2007-09-01 08:10
by Bob Timmermann

You can feel free here, if you are so moved, to discuss the various happenings in football, both with the pointy kind played by the collegiate lads, or the round kind, such as the EPL, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, the Eredivisie, or the Faroe Islands domestic league. (The Faroese appear to have this weekend off.)

Any comments about the NECSAC will be deleted. I'm still angry at Bowdoin College.

Comments (70)
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2007-09-01 08:36:04
1.   Greg Brock
SAN DIMAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL RULES!!!!
2007-09-01 08:39:59
2.   Bob Timmermann
Thank you, Bill and/or Ted.
2007-09-01 08:42:35
3.   bhsportsguy
1 The dawn of a new era of UCLA football begins in 4 hours.

Yesterday, I saw Bruce Davis do the best Pete Carroll imitation (how he looked at the end of the 13-9 game), I have seen.

UCLA better win handily today because I have to spend the bulk of the afternoon and evening at the USC game and I would like to have that taken care of so I won't have hear about it.

2007-09-01 08:42:42
4.   Bob Timmermann
Speaking as a UCLA football fan, I am very, very, very happy that the Bruins are not at home today.

The Rose Bowl would be like a Bessemer converter today.

2007-09-01 08:46:31
5.   Ken Arneson
I don't know what schedule you were looking at, Bob, but it looks to me like the entire Faroese league plays tomorrow. They have the following weekend off so that their best players can play in the big European Championship qualifier against Lithuania.
2007-09-01 08:51:19
6.   bhsportsguy
4 On the UCLA boards, apparently the phrase is "Oklahoma" hot.

But yes, I hope things cool down for next week.

2007-09-01 09:11:44
7.   Bob Timmermann
5
I stupid confusing Faroese dates.
2007-09-01 10:11:36
8.   Bob Timmermann
Appalachian State leads Michigan at Ann Arbor 21-14 in the second quarter.
2007-09-01 10:59:46
9.   Bob Timmermann
28-17 Mountaineers at halftime over the Wolverines.
2007-09-01 11:25:33
10.   Vishal
1 as someone with a soft spot for pop-punk, i appreciate the ataris reference.
2007-09-01 11:26:01
11.   Vishal
(even if you weren't going for that)
2007-09-01 11:31:23
12.   Vishal
9 now it's 31-20. i've been telling people for the past several years that that michigan is consistently overrated, and every year they have proven me right.
2007-09-01 12:09:31
13.   Andrew Shimmin
Looks like the NECSAC teams don't start playing for another three weeks, when the Polar Bears host the Ephs.
2007-09-01 12:26:32
14.   trainwreck
Let's go Bruins!!
2007-09-01 12:33:22
15.   trainwreck
No, I do not want overtime in the CSU/CU game!
2007-09-01 12:45:53
16.   Eric Stephen
Once again, a very good college football game/upset is tainted by having Thom Brennaman as the lead announcer.

I'm glad I don't have the Big Ten Network.

2007-09-01 12:46:36
17.   Andrew Shimmin
Based on the first series of the year, I'm now comfortable predicting that UCLA will win the NCAA title, this year. Book it.
2007-09-01 13:11:06
18.   trainwreck
Nice catch for the TD by Cowan.
2007-09-01 13:47:14
19.   KAYVMON
Clint Dempsey was unbelievably good today, probably the best player on the pitch for either team.

That is all.

2007-09-01 13:47:51
20.   Bob Timmermann
Remember people, let's call Division I-AA by its proper name: the Football Championship Subdivision.
2007-09-01 14:03:35
21.   KAYVMON
20- I'll only understand and respect it if they call it the Coca-Cola Championship.
2007-09-01 14:07:59
22.   D4P
What's Division I-A's proper name...?
2007-09-01 14:09:02
23.   D4P
Don't worry, Stanford: you've still got 7 more home games after today.
2007-09-01 14:19:01
24.   Bob Timmermann
22
The Football Bowl Subdivision
2007-09-01 14:19:59
25.   D4P
The proper names are lame.
2007-09-01 14:24:46
26.   nofatmike
After Michigan's and Ohio State's debacles in their respectful bowls game, despite losing one game between them going in, I felt that the Big Ten should be considered a Division I-AA conference from then on. I'm glad Applachian State proved me right.
2007-09-01 14:29:16
27.   Bob Timmermann
Divisions II and III did not have their names changed.
2007-09-01 14:34:00
28.   trainwreck
Is it too soon to bash Karl Dorrell already?
2007-09-01 14:34:05
29.   Johan
Lloyd Carr is dead man walking for four months. Must be a nice feeling.
2007-09-01 14:35:09
30.   Bob Timmermann
28
No, no it is not.
2007-09-01 14:40:52
31.   trainwreck
29
I wish KD was in the same situation.
2007-09-01 14:43:41
32.   Bob Timmermann
What's gotten into Khalil Bell? I'm just following online. Does he think this is the Sun Bowl?
2007-09-01 14:46:23
33.   trainwreck
The o-line is looking a lot better at run blocking. Bell has been breaking tackles and running with a little more patience then bursting when he gets a block. He had one run where he got knocked three times and was still going.
2007-09-01 14:49:04
34.   trainwreck
Wow, Bell just broke 4 tackles on that run.
2007-09-01 14:51:22
35.   trainwreck
Alright! Good play and we actually executed it.
2007-09-01 14:51:30
36.   Bob Timmermann
And I see it's Kahlil Bell, so you can differentiate him from Khalil Greene.
2007-09-01 14:54:45
37.   Linkmeister
I missed the memo. What did Bowdoin do to you?

(I applied there back in 1967; fortunately the lure of resident tuition rates at Arizona prevailed over the high prices at a private school in Maine.)

2007-09-01 14:57:22
38.   Benjamin Miracord
36 Maybe YOU can. But I'm forever getting college football players mixed up with professional hockey players. Greene does play hockey, right?
2007-09-01 14:58:24
39.   Bob Timmermann
37
I also don't like Bates or Colby!
2007-09-01 15:13:45
40.   trainwreck
Alright, actually getting some big plays.
2007-09-01 15:58:55
41.   D4P
My friend's sister went to Williams...
2007-09-01 16:01:04
42.   Jon Weisman
What's the verdict on Stanford? Are we going to improve on 1-11? Have we saved face?
2007-09-01 16:16:16
43.   Bob Timmermann
Stanford did get 400 yards of offense against a supposedly good defense.

Giving up nearly 600 usually won't cut it though.

2007-09-01 16:20:28
44.   Bob Timmermann
The unofficial box score shows UCLA with 625 yards of offense. That misses the school record of 679, but would tie for 10th alltime.
2007-09-01 16:33:34
45.   KG16
As an alum of a school that doesn't have a football program (but may have a futbol program), I usually pick a team to root for that will completely mess up the BCS. So, does that mean I root for Boise St this year, or Hawaii? Or is there someone else out there that will mess things up? The dream, of course, would be for two non-BCS teams to be playing for the national championship.
2007-09-01 16:35:41
46.   Bob Timmermann
Two non-BCS schools playing in the championship game would be a longshot transcending Appalachian State beating Michigan. It would be more like Idaho beating USC.

Hawai'i is supposedly the best choice to make it into the BCS, but they have a pretty weak schedule.

2007-09-01 16:42:16
47.   KG16
I dunno Bob, I see TCU, Hawaii, and Boise St all in the preseason top 25, if two of those teams run the table and everyone else beats everyone else (Cal beats UCLA, UCLA beats USC, USC beats Cal, etc) why not have TCU vs Hawaii/Boise St?

If Ned is going to crush my dreams of LaRoche at third for the rest of the season, I'm going to hang on to this one as long as I can...

2007-09-01 16:43:59
48.   Gagne55
45 Don't forget that Boise State went unbeaten last year and still was about ten slots away from the title game. Unless a non-BCS conference school plays a non-conference schedual of something like USC, Texas, and Michigan they won't get consideration.
2007-09-01 16:46:48
49.   KG16
When was the last non-BCS team the national champ? Was it Steve Young's BYU Cougars in the 80s?
2007-09-01 16:48:51
50.   Gagne55
And so if I was the coach at Boise State, I'd be calling up Oaklahoma asking for a rematch. I'd call up USC to see if they'd play the other school from Idaho. I'd call up Florida asking the defending champs to play the team that went unbeaten etc. Although I wonder if any of the top powers would accept.
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2007-09-01 16:51:13
51.   KG16
50 - after what happened in the Fiesta Bowl, every BCS team is praying that they don't have to face a non-BCS team in a bowl game, and most are probably wanting to avoid the higher caliber teams in the regular season
2007-09-01 16:57:19
52.   Gagne55
51 I think that the BCS should institute a policy that all teams who make it to a bowl game have to play the same opponent in the regular season the next year. That way the top schools that regularly make the top bowl games have to play a tough out of conference game each year. The more games that match up top ranked teams the better. Seriously, would you rather see USC open up against Idaho or Michigan?
2007-09-01 16:58:46
53.   Gagne55
Also, it would reduce (though not eliminate) the chance of three or more teams making it through the year unbeaten forcing one to get shortchanged.
2007-09-01 17:00:21
54.   Bob Timmermann
47
You must the same sort of person who hopes a third party candidate can get enough electoral votes to force the House to choose the president. ;-)
2007-09-01 17:02:58
55.   KG16
54 - heh, well, having a degree in political science does allow me to dream of those scenarios. Though, lately, it's been hoping that no candidate gets enough delegates to win the nomination before the convention. Baby steps.
2007-09-01 17:09:04
56.   KG16
Appalachian St actually won? I thought they were done, as far as I'm concerned, this is already a great season.
2007-09-01 17:14:27
57.   Bob Timmermann
55
Since the "West Wing" got cancelled, we saw our last deadlocked convention.
2007-09-01 17:18:06
58.   Linkmeister
Thre has been much gnashing of teeth about Hawaii's weak schedule out here. The consensus is that Herman Frazier's performance as AD has been pretty poor. Two years ago Hawaii opened with Southern Cal, and last year with Alabama. This year it's Northern Colorado, a D-II team. There's another D-II team on the schedule as well.

In addition, Hawaii's allowed 13 games but Frazier couldn't find an opponent, so there are only 12 games this year.

We have what might be the best team the school's ever had and due to the schedule we might have no showcase for it. Anything less than undefeated probably means no shot at a BCS game, and Colt Brennan's dark horse shot at the Heisman ("System QB. What's he done against top-notch opponents?) will also go down the tubes.

2007-09-01 17:22:53
59.   Bob Timmermann
UH also blew it by putting its games on PPV. They sued to be on FSN out on the Mainland (is that supposed to be capitalized) and it was easier to follow the team.

I really don't want to pay however much they charge to listen to Jim Leahey describe the action as the 'Bows take on a Division II school.

2007-09-01 17:43:32
60.   Linkmeister
The PPV thing was in part a nod to the non-Oahu fans who couldn't afford to fly over every weekend, but you're right; it's made it harder for Mainlanders (yes, caps are usual, if not absolute) to follow the team. It's also had the predictable consequence of stadium attendance falling off. There are only 8,000 parking stalls for a 50,000 seat stadium, and there's a swap meet in the parking lot until mid-afternoon on game days, so even getting in early is problematic. Thus, many former attendees have concluded, "hey, I can have a party at the house, watch on the tube, get drunk and fall over without killing anyone (in a car, anyway), and not pay outrageous prices for food and beer. What's not to like?"
2007-09-01 17:47:15
61.   Linkmeister
Oh, to add to the in-person attendance problem, I just got the following in the mail from Hawaiian Tel:

"Another great season of University of Hawaii athletics is underway and again Hawaiian Telcom sends a big mahalo to our High Speed Internet customers with a FREE season's pass to our online streaming site."

You think I'll sign up, even if I only watch parts of football and volleyball games? You betcha.

Even some volleyball matches are on PPV as of last year. That's a really rude shock; they've been on free tv since forever.

2007-09-01 18:02:25
62.   trainwreck
Olson was a lot better in second half and I liked the play calling much better too. I am a little bit disappointed with our defense, but hopefully they will improve since they have the talent to do so.

At least we improved in the second half and I definitely like the fact that we were able to overcome our slow first half.

2007-09-01 18:17:15
63.   Andrew Shimmin
Dear ABC,

I don't care about the tree people. Seriously. Let it go.

2007-09-01 18:26:17
64.   The Mootz
63. I don't think Burnt Hamburger knows the meaning of the phrase, "Let it go."
2007-09-01 18:44:31
65.   Johnny Nucleo
Tomorrow on the Griddle Football open thread: Saskatchewan Rough Riders at Winnipeg Blue Bombers, 1 pm PT.
With three more rouges, Saskatchewan kicker Luca Congi can regain the league lead.
2007-09-01 18:57:15
66.   Bob Timmermann
Three singles in a game is a lot in the CFL.

My Canadian friends tell me that only Americans call them rouges. Or people who are really pedantic.

2007-09-01 20:18:40
67.   Eric Stephen
Heck of a one-handed catch by Vidal Hazelton!
2007-09-01 20:52:08
68.   Johnny Nucleo
66 My dad calls them rouges. I really should ask my uncle Pete, who played OT for the Ottawa Rough Riders back in the early 60's.
2007-09-01 20:54:21
69.   Gagne55
Why did Claussen not start for Notre Dame? Weis used two inferior QBs before bringing in the star.
2007-09-01 22:04:54
70.   Bob Timmermann
Perhaps Clausen isn't all that good?

He had elbow surgery in the offseason too.

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