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The Long March Epilogue: Super Bowl XLII chat
2008-02-03 10:53
by Bob Timmermann

Reports coming to me from Arizona tell me that there is a football game today. Approximately 3:30 pm PT. There is a team from New Jersey that calls itself New York against a team that calls itself New England (it's about time the people of Vermont had a pro football team).

You can feel free to use this thread to comment on the accounts, transcripts, and events of the game even if you don't have the express written consent of the Commissioner of Football.

Things you might not have known:

  • Eli Manning has an older brother named Peyton.
  • The Patriots have not lost a game this year.
  • Bill Belichick has made Tom Coughlin look like the nicest guy in the world.
  • Tom Brady is not Johnny Unitas. Because when I looked into Johnny Unitas's eyes I was always mesmerized. That doesn't happy with Tom Brady.
  • My neighbor who has a car with three Patriots Super Bowl champion bumper stickers and two Red Sox World Series champion bumper stickers will be making a lot of noise today.
  • There will be an episode of "House" on after the Super Bowl. I predict that Hugh Laurie will act misanthropic during the episode.
  • No one will like the halftime show.
  • "Up With People" is still in business. But they're not at the Super Bowl.
  • Joe Buck will try to act like he's really hip. It won't work.
  • Companies will spend too much on advertising during the game.
  • There will not be a 1-point safety in the game.
Comments (251)
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2008-02-03 11:19:58
1.   Marty
Please make it a competitive game. Otherwise I'm going to have a bunch of drunks on my hands. Well, I may anyway but they won't be bored and drunk.
2008-02-03 11:31:19
2.   D4P
BTW: I noticed the "Epilog" before it was changed. I thought it must be some kind of pun that I wasn't getting.
2008-02-03 11:34:48
3.   D4P
No one will like the halftime show

While normally a truism, Tom Petty's great. Not that he necessarily appeals to today's generation, but still...Let's just hope for no wardrobe malfunctions.

2008-02-03 11:38:34
4.   Bob Timmermann
I switched to the more popular spelling of "epilogue".
2008-02-03 11:44:49
5.   Andrew Shimmin
When are you going to switch "Things you might know have known" ?

Wikipedia says Don Mischer is running the halftime show, again, this year. So there may or may not be balloons.

2008-02-03 11:45:36
6.   D4P
Things you might know have known

But you went with the very unpopular spelling of "not".

2008-02-03 11:48:51
7.   D4P
I can't tell whether that's funny or not because I have no idea who Don Mischer is.
2008-02-03 11:54:20
8.   Andrew Shimmin
He made the most interesting contribution to CNN's coverage of the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
2008-02-03 12:14:09
9.   das411
So far I've heard three predictions from out here on the East Coast:

Pats 27, Giants 17
Pats 31, Giants 28


Giants 142, Pats 12.


2008-02-03 12:30:34
10.   Marty
If I was to make a bet today, I would take the Eli's and the points
2008-02-03 12:54:52
11.   Eric Enders
So have Rams fans been playing "The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia" on a loop this week?
2008-02-03 12:55:19
12.   underdog
(reposting) I know there's a chat here today for the Stupor Bowl, which is great, but no reason you can't check in with two live blogging events - ya know, if you're online anyway. So join me for an experiment in live blogging too, beginning at 3pm Pacific:

I have to approve each comment so hopefully I won't get overwhelmed, but that probably won't be a problem.

I won't make any predictions on a final score until a few minutes before the final whistle.

2008-02-03 12:56:08
13.   underdog
Just doing my part to keep the Toaster's servers from being overwhelmed.
2008-02-03 12:59:51
14.   Eric Enders
I think the car I drive is an XL-II model.
2008-02-03 13:01:17
15.   D4P
I haven't been paying any attention, so can someone explain to me what it is that "conservatives" don't like about McCain? (Assume I know nothing, which may not require any deviation from normalcy)
2008-02-03 13:24:26
16.   ToyCannon
If your bored and have no rooting interest some Toaster favorites have the following numbers in my pool.
LAT - 8-5 and 5-8. What are the odds that if you buy two squares out of 100 that you would get the same numbers for both teams?
Eric Stephen - Giants 6, Pats 5
Yours Truly - Giants 6 Pats 4
Giants 1 Pats 3
Giants 3 Pats 3
My wife has Giants 4 Pats 0
Payout is 50.00 per score change, 250 per quarter except for the 4th and whatever is left from the 2000 goes to the winner.

Being a Packer fans and a somewhat Pat fan even if they are cheaters, I am hoping they crush the Giants because I really dislike their coach and because they knocked the Packers out.

Amazing how the Lakers have changed their future with one trade.

2008-02-03 13:25:51
17.   ToyCannon
And Jeff Kent has Giants 4 Pats either 1 or 9.
2008-02-03 13:30:38
18.   Marty
I didn't know you had a pool going TC
2008-02-03 13:36:56
19.   Bob Timmermann
Conservatives approve of McCain's Selma killing policy, but they oppose his Bart killing policy.

If McCain becomes president, I'm shorting my stock in Waterboards, Inc.

2008-02-03 13:40:16
20.   D4P
I gather McCain's a warmonger, but that would presumably make him appealing to The Right. What is it that makes them think he's a lib'rul?
2008-02-03 13:45:36
21.   Bob Timmermann
McCain does support fetal stem cell research, although he leans to the pro-life side. His stance on immigration isn't considered tough enough for some conservatives.
2008-02-03 13:47:08
22.   D4P
But if we bomb enough of the foreigners, we won't have to worry about them moving in illegally and taking our jobs...
2008-02-03 13:57:29
23.   Bob Timmermann
For D4P's reading pleasure:
2008-02-03 14:00:43
24.   underdog
19 I believe you mean McBain. McBaaaaainnnn...


Man, first he ruins New Year's Eve, now we're subjected to him again. I speak, of course, of Ryan Seacrest.

2008-02-03 14:01:47
25.   D4P
In theory, reading what the candidates say about the issues should tell us where they stand. But I tend to think their statements don't really mean much, and don't always gel with their actual stances.
2008-02-03 14:02:54
26.   rbj
Not a conservative, but I (and most conservatives I know) are appalled by McCain-Feingold. Heck, it got the NRA & the ACLU to agree on one thing: BCRA is bad.

Animal Planet is showing Puppy Bowl.

Go Giants (though I suspect the New England team will score more points)

2008-02-03 14:05:13
27.   ToyCannon
I thought I sent you an email. I sent out quite a few to DT people like Bob, Jon, Bhsportsguy and so forth but only LAT and Eric responded.
I only had a few squares available because most of them are reserved for a pickem pool I run that has 35 members or my extended family.
2008-02-03 14:06:26
28.   D4P
Geez. George Bluth Sr. is in another comedy, by my count the second since Arrested Development died.
2008-02-03 14:10:18
29.   ToyCannon
This Tuesday is shaping up as the most exciting primary day of my lifetime. I'm still unnerved when I watch Clinton and Obama wade into these crowds during the primary campaign.
2008-02-03 14:13:32
30.   underdog
As much as I love cats, I have to admit the Kitten Bowl was a crashing bore. Puppy Bowl will no doubt be more exciting, or at least better than more Ryan Secrest at halftime.
2008-02-03 14:15:44
31.   underdog
underdog will not officially endorse anyone in the upcoming primaries, because my first two officially sanctioned candidates have both dropped out before Tuesday, so I am the kiss of death. I won't say who, I'll just say one of them is Latino and the other has very expensive hair.
2008-02-03 14:16:04
32.   D4P
I can't help but feel like the "winner" of this election will actually end up being a big loser. Whomever takes over is seriously set up for failure, and will inherit from the current administration a ton of unsolvable problems for which s/he will be blamed by supporters of the current admin.

No thanks.

2008-02-03 14:16:41
33.   Bob Timmermann
Sort of like James Buchanan? Or Herbert Hoover?
2008-02-03 14:18:42
34.   Linkmeister
D4P, I've got a couple of Petty YouTube links up at my place ( if you need a fix before halftime.

I'll take the Pats by a touchdown. The Jints beat the spread, but the Pats go undefeated.

I'm staying home to watch for the first time since 1990; my usual host is off-Oahu and on-island in Manhattan.

2008-02-03 14:19:38
35.   Marty
27 Didn't get one, but no worries. I'm already in a couple.
2008-02-03 14:20:24
36.   Linkmeister
I liked Dodd, but...

of the two remaining on the Democratic side, I think Hillary is meaner, which may be a requirement right now.

On the Republican side, I'll be polite and not say a word.

2008-02-03 14:20:37
37.   Bob Timmermann
I'll be in your state in April, but I'll be on Kauai. My girlfriend and I planning on doing nothing and I figured that's the best place for it. Also, she's never been there.
2008-02-03 14:25:54
38.   D4P
Gotta love Tom Petty's "Lucky" character on King of the Hill.
2008-02-03 14:27:25
39.   Linkmeister
Bob, if you have any time in Honolulu waiting for a plane, let me know.

Kauai is under a flash flood watch today.

2008-02-03 14:28:37
40.   Bob Timmermann
We're going nonstop from LAX to LIH, but thanks for the offer.
2008-02-03 14:31:55
41.   Andrew Shimmin
Not picking up a Politics of Hope vibe, here. I'd better get to inTrade and start shorting Obama.
2008-02-03 14:35:16
42.   fordprefect
from what I've seen of the Puppy Bowl so far, I'd say you can save your thumbs--or whatever combination of appendages/digits you normally use to operate the remote.
-Oh, and save your retinas too.
2008-02-03 14:36:09
43.   D4P
When is Bob coming out to NC? He (hopefully) only has a 4-5 month window to visit before I leave...
2008-02-03 14:37:12
44.   Andrew Shimmin
Discovery is running a replay of the Baseball special Mythbusters (with Roger Clemens cameo). Apparently corking your bat is dumb, as well as illegal.
2008-02-03 14:59:20
45.   underdog
Don't forget! Help me test this live blogging software in my own super bowl chat, now live at

jump in and out anytime!

2008-02-03 15:03:05
46.   Chyll Will
3 Here's hoping Tom Petty can somehow top Prince; maybe he'll make his silhouette look like it sprouted a hyperactive nymph on the other end of it's third leg.
2008-02-03 15:11:25
47.   SoSG Orel
re ● sil ● ien ● cy
being able to sit through inane pre-game segments
2008-02-03 15:13:16
48.   D4P
in ● tell ● i ● gence
not watching pre-game segments

gen ● i ● us
not watching game itself

2008-02-03 15:13:58
49.   SoSG Orel
team ● work ● ism ● ness
why we we'll never stop hearing about the 2007-08 Patriots
2008-02-03 15:14:52
50.   SoSG Orel
nothing ● better ● to ● do
why I'm watching the game
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2008-02-03 15:19:19
51.   D4P
anything ● is ● better ● then ● watching ● New ● England ● win
2008-02-03 15:19:54
52.   D4P
● then ●


● than ●

2008-02-03 15:22:00
53.   SoSG Orel
believe ● in ● schadenfreude
2008-02-03 15:27:05
54.   Bob Timmermann
Referee Mike Carey is one of those guys who makes calls that sound very official. It's almost like he's in the military.
2008-02-03 15:32:48
55.   Bob Timmermann
I will eat no chips during this game. I bought fruit!

Chips are reserved for college football bowl games.

2008-02-03 15:33:28
56.   D4P
Doesn't everyone eat fruit during the Super Bowl...?
2008-02-03 15:33:52
57.   SoSG Orel
I love the fact that the computer-generated blue and yellow lines are in slo-mo shots now.
2008-02-03 15:37:23
58.   D4P
Just think how well these Giant plays would be working if New England didn't know they were coming...
2008-02-03 15:40:25
59.   D4P
Message to NY: don't bother kicking field goals.
2008-02-03 15:42:04
60.   SoSG Orel
Belichick looks like a homeless man. Seriously.
2008-02-03 15:43:19
61.   Bob Timmermann
8:25 taken off the clock so far.
2008-02-03 15:45:07
62.   D4P
With respect to kicking field goals against New England, Ivan Drago said it best:

"You vill lose"

2008-02-03 15:45:12
63.   SoSG Orel
Giants for a FG. What a surprise.
2008-02-03 15:47:15
64.   D4P
Belichick looks like a homeless man

Cheating wears on you. Or so I'm told.

2008-02-03 15:49:52
65.   D4P
If the game gets called off now because of rain, the Giants win!
2008-02-03 15:51:13
66.   Bob Timmermann
The stadium has a roof.
2008-02-03 15:54:07
67.   D4P
Um, if the game gets called off now because of a terrorist attack, the Giants win!
2008-02-03 15:54:42
68.   D4P
I hope the Giants realize that 7 > 3
2008-02-03 15:56:23
69.   bhsportsguy
How many people are waiting on 3/0 in their pools right now.
2008-02-03 16:02:44
70.   SoSG Orel
I think the Patriots just realized 7 > 3.
2008-02-03 16:02:52
71.   Bob Timmermann
So is 7 > 3?
2008-02-03 16:03:19
72.   D4P
I hope the terrorists hold off now for a while. Look to me for the signal, guys.
2008-02-03 16:10:27
73.   Bob Timmermann
That was the most ineffective blitz in Super Bowl history.
2008-02-03 16:10:44
74.   D4P
I hope the Giants realize that 7 > 6
2008-02-03 16:13:12
75.   fanerman
7 > 0 =(
2008-02-03 16:13:52
76.   Bob Timmermann
Mr. Smith, you have been relieved.
2008-02-03 16:22:56
77.   bhsportsguy
76 One Bruin is rooting for a Trojan. During the Laker game broadcast, Stu Lantz mentioned that Jordan Farmar's high school teammate at Taft High is Steve Smith, who was the 2 aka shooting guard on their basketball team.

Farmar said Smith was a very good basketball player but was a better football player.

2008-02-03 16:25:34
78.   bhsportsguy
Okay, the commercials really suck.
2008-02-03 16:26:31
79.   Andrew Shimmin
If Hillary promised not to let the government buy Super Bowl ads about drugs, I'd think about voting for her.
2008-02-03 16:29:06
80.   Bob Timmermann
I liked Steve Smith when he was at USC because he was USC's designated "non-jerk" receiver. I hated Mike Williams, who was a bomb in the NFL, and Dwayne Jarrett.
2008-02-03 16:30:17
81.   Andrew Shimmin
80- And Andrew Bogut.
2008-02-03 16:30:26
82.   D4P
Aren't kids just "saying 'No'" to drugs, anyway?
2008-02-03 16:33:27
83.   D4P
The Giants's "Run on 1st and 2nd downs, throw on 3rd" gambit is bold and innovative.
2008-02-03 16:33:53
84.   Bob Timmermann
I will give kids my prescription drugs. This will keep their cholesterol down and also stop their epilepsy.
2008-02-03 16:35:43
85.   Bob Timmermann
Knotty problem of football developing.
2008-02-03 16:36:18
86.   SoSG Orel
"Illegal bat"? What sport is this anyway?
2008-02-03 16:36:24
87.   Bob Timmermann
That was a good call.
2008-02-03 16:37:15
88.   Bob Timmermann
You can't knock loose balls around with your hands or feet in a deliberate way.
2008-02-03 16:37:50
89.   D4P
No penalties called on New England yet. I guess they're perfect.
2008-02-03 16:38:56
90.   D4P
This is one of those annoying games where "your" team will outgain the opponent by a lot of yards, but still lose.
2008-02-03 16:43:15
91.   underdog
Bob's kind enough to drop by my chat, so I'm returning the favor.

I bet the scoring in this game picks up by end of 3rd quarter.

Bet trainwreck likes Randy Moss not having any catches so far.

2008-02-03 16:43:20
92.   Bob Timmermann
The Patriots were the 17th most penalized team in the NFL in terms of yardage. The Giants were 21st.
2008-02-03 16:44:31
93.   D4P
So: these refs are clearly biased.
2008-02-03 16:46:10
94.   underdog
I also just learned my limit for guacamole and tortilla chips. Ugh. I think I know where I'm spending part of the Tom Petty halftime show.
2008-02-03 16:47:08
95.   underdog
underdog's Final words: I should've eaten fruit...
2008-02-03 16:48:18
96.   Bob Timmermann
Four teams have actually made it through a Super Bowl without a penalty:

Falcons against Denver in 1998
Broncos against San Francisco in 1989
Steelers against Dallas in 1975
Dolphins against Dallas in 1971

The teams with no penalties were 1-3.

2008-02-03 16:48:49
97.   SoSG Orel
Tom Petty and the Heartburners?
2008-02-03 16:50:22
98.   SoSG Orel
Bob, are you using
2008-02-03 16:52:14
99.   Bob Timmermann
The NFL website has most of this info.
2008-02-03 16:56:04
100.   Andrew Shimmin
Huh. The Giants had the lowest payroll of any team in the NFL this year. The Patriots had the second highest. I thought salary caps meant all payrolls would be about the same, but it looks like there's a fifty million dollar spread.

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2008-02-03 17:09:21
101.   bhsportsguy
there was a time when Tom Petty was fresh and new. of course, that was when Super Bowls were still in the teens.
2008-02-03 17:09:56
102.   Bob Timmermann
The First Lady of California has endorsed Obama. Those Kennedys don't get along well.
2008-02-03 17:12:01
103.   SoSG Orel
That's because it's easier to pay a group of young extras to pretend they like old acts than it is to hire a recent act old fart football fans won't recognize.
2008-02-03 17:13:37
104.   bhsportsguy
You could have laid a bet at the Las Vegas Hilton on what the last song of Tom Petty's set would be.
2008-02-03 17:13:54
105.   SoSG Orel
No Rule 5 at The Griddle!
2008-02-03 17:14:09
106.   Bob Timmermann
Up With People participated in the Rose Parade this year.
2008-02-03 17:15:05
107.   Andrew Shimmin
This is the least objectionable half-time show I can remember. Just boring is a major step up from actively irritating.
2008-02-03 17:15:09
108.   Bob Timmermann
The NFL even has a nice chart for Super Bowl entertainment history.

2008-02-03 17:16:30
109.   D4P
No Rule 5 at The Griddle!

Dodger Thoughts hates our freedom.

2008-02-03 17:17:51
110.   Raf
Serie del Caribe isn't that much better...
2008-02-03 17:18:21
111.   Bob Timmermann
I reserve the right to censor anyone's comments. But since I don't get as many comments as Jon does, I don't see political commentary being a big issue.

Jon gets way more traffic and he doesn't want DT to turn into some Battle Royale between Daily Kos and Instapundit.

2008-02-03 17:20:25
112.   SoSG Orel
Tom Petty: "Thank you so much! God bless! I'm a million dollars richer!"
2008-02-03 17:21:42
113.   SoSG Orel
111 It's amazing how Jon manages to keep it civil there. Lots of credit goes to the commenters, obviously.
2008-02-03 17:22:19
114.   Raf
Tom Petty King of the Hill tie-in... It was only a matter of time
2008-02-03 17:22:52
115.   D4P
Lots of credit goes to the commenters, obviously


2008-02-03 17:23:46
116.   D4P
I wonder if any impressionable kids have tried slipping on pee-pee at the CostCo to get $50,000 settlements.
2008-02-03 17:27:29
117.   LAT
Is there any doubt left about just how much money the Indian casinos have or how much these propositions mean to them. They must be spending a fortune on advertsing.
2008-02-03 17:34:52
118.   Bob Timmermann
If this challenge goes New England's way, we will hear D4P's screams throughout the country.
2008-02-03 17:35:12
119.   bhsportsguy
bellichek can hop
2008-02-03 17:35:37
120.   D4P
I'm not watching. What's happening?
2008-02-03 17:37:37
121.   Raf
118 Is that what that sound is?
2008-02-03 17:37:44
122.   Bob Timmermann
12 men on the field on the Giants. First down New England.
2008-02-03 17:37:55
123.   fanerman
2008-02-03 17:39:07
124.   D4P
12 men on the field on the Giants

That's BS. How do the refs know for sure that all 12 of them are men...?

2008-02-03 17:39:07
125.   Raf
120 "Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?" - Jim Bouton
2008-02-03 17:40:08
126.   Bob Timmermann
Visual inspection.
2008-02-03 17:40:11
127.   bhsportsguy
Carmen Electra is a distant relative of former ESPN anchor Dan Patrick.
2008-02-03 17:41:06
128.   Gen3Blue
At least Petty enforces the perception(false) that Rock is still more improtant in this country than Country. I had to release both my children to Country music as much as I hated the name. However I am beginning to find that modern Country is mostly Rock or Blues, and if I just accept the lanquage, I have no real problem. For a decade or so most Country singers sang with a stupid hick accent over a Rock background, but now even that seems to be fading.
2008-02-03 17:43:11
129.   underdog
These ads have mostly been a disappointment so far. I've liked the Bridgestone ads and the Career Builder one... not much else...
2008-02-03 17:43:56
130.   bhsportsguy
that's very undorellian.
2008-02-03 17:45:12
131.   Bob Timmermann
You know, prior to the debut of the Macintosh in 1984, nobody ever cared about the ads in the Super Bowl.

I watched Super Bowl III at the Paley Center and they just had regular car commercials and a lot of Gillette ads.

2008-02-03 17:46:12
132.   Raf
And in the Serie del Caribe, Aguiles over Tigres 2-1, 3rd inning.
2008-02-03 17:46:19
133.   bhsportsguy
Tom Hanks and Tim Allen probaby made a few easy bucks for that plug.
2008-02-03 17:48:30
134.   Raf
129 You didn't like the salesgenie ads? Ethnic stereotypes at their finest
2008-02-03 17:55:53
135.   Bob Timmermann
I thought the Patriots were supposed to keep Mr. Brady from getting hit. Gisele will be mad.
2008-02-03 17:56:20
136.   SoSG Orel
134 I read their strategy was to produce intentionally bad ads, but they've taken that edict way too far.
2008-02-03 17:57:20
137.   Bob Timmermann
I have eaten three bananas today and I have no leg cramps.
2008-02-03 17:58:26
138.   D4P
Gisele will be mad

I hope she doesn't get her panties in a Bündch

2008-02-03 17:59:08
139.   SoSG Orel
I think I will be missing the Pro Bowl.
2008-02-03 18:00:38
140.   Bob Timmermann
I remember back in the day when the Pro Bowl was held annually at the LA Coliseum and it was a big deal.
2008-02-03 18:00:56
141.   D4P

I won't be watching the Pro Bowl, but I won't be missing it either.

2008-02-03 18:02:21
142.   D4P
This affair doesn't have much scoring, which kind of goes against the point of affairs in the first place.
2008-02-03 18:04:36
143.   Bob Timmermann
Fewest points in a Super Bowl is 21.

Miami 14, Washington 7.

The game was not as close as the score would have indicated.

2008-02-03 18:06:38
144.   Bob Timmermann
The Miami-Washington Super Bowl at the LA Coliseum (#7) was the first one held in LA that the NFL allowed to be televised in the LA market.

Super Bowl 1 was blacked out in LA despite it being shown on TWO networks.

2008-02-03 18:11:30
145.   D4P
A 6-pointer!
2008-02-03 18:12:49
146.   D4P
Bill Plaschke told me that Tom Brady can't lead his team to game-winning touchdowns, so the best New England can hope for is to tie the score.
2008-02-03 18:13:34
147.   Bob Timmermann
Bill Plaschke didn't watch the Patriots-Ravens game did he?
2008-02-03 18:16:33
148.   das411
!!!!! That Giants TD was the best thing to happen tonight since that Terminator started beating the crap out of the Fox robot...
2008-02-03 18:16:34
149.   Daniel Zappala
I feel bad that my kids like the animated robot that comes on when they go to commercial (and come back). They mimic what it does each time. I hate that thing.
2008-02-03 18:16:46
150.   Gen3Blue
It would almost be amusing if this ended up a tie, and revealed the horrible tie breaking system the NFL has. I assume they have nothing better for the Superbowl. Whoever wins the coin flip probably wins. An interesting premise!
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2008-02-03 18:17:35
151.   D4P
Whoever wins the coin flip probably wins

No doubt the Patriots will sneak in a double-headed coin and then call "Heads".

2008-02-03 18:18:27
152.   SoSG Orel
149 Why would a robot need to do warm-up exercises anyway?
2008-02-03 18:18:41
153.   Bob Timmermann
The college tie breaking system isn't a whole lot better than sudden death.
2008-02-03 18:20:49
154.   Bob Timmermann
I suggest the NFL adopt the old California Tiebreaker. Put the ball on the 50, each team alternates plays for 8 snaps. The winner is the team with the ball in its opponents side of the field.
2008-02-03 18:22:23
155.   D4P
What did they do if one team scored a touchdown on one of its snaps (or the defense returned a turnover for a touchdown)?
2008-02-03 18:22:47
156.   Daniel Zappala
Or we could let them play 15 minute periods until a period ends with one team ahead, or until one team runs out of players, whichever comes first.
2008-02-03 18:22:58
157.   Bob Timmermann
Then the game was over.
2008-02-03 18:24:29
158.   Bob Timmermann
Baseball and basketball have the most sensible tiebreaking procedures.

Basketball's is the fairest. In baseball, the visitors have to get three extra outs to win.

2008-02-03 18:25:17
159.   D4P
Lame possession, Giants.
2008-02-03 18:25:59
160.   Icaros
Sudden death should commence with an XFL-style opening kickoff, where one player from each team races to the ball on the 50. Winner gets the advantageous first possession.

That's better than a coin flip.

2008-02-03 18:27:14
161.   D4P
Ugh. The game is setup for a legendary game-winning TD drive.
2008-02-03 18:27:51
162.   Bob Timmermann
The Patriots are unlikely to go on an 8-minute long 80-yard TD drive.
2008-02-03 18:31:00
163.   Bob Timmermann
However, the Patriots did have a long drive to run out the clock against the Chargers in their last game.
2008-02-03 18:33:04
164.   D4P
You know it's going to happen. And we're gonna have to hear about it ad nauseum. But at least it will be tarnished by the cheating.
2008-02-03 18:35:05
165.   Bob Timmermann
Johnny Unitas would have won this game already.
2008-02-03 18:35:29
166.   D4P
Is New York employing the "Prevent (Yourself from Keeping the Other Team From Scoring) Defense"?
2008-02-03 18:37:12
167.   Bob Timmermann
The Giants best hope now is for Brady to morph into Rob Johnson.
2008-02-03 18:40:24
168.   Bob Timmermann
I think the Super Bowl record of fewest rushing attempts is in the bag now. Total of 39 in the game. And I doubt the Giants are going to rush the ball six times on their next drive.
2008-02-03 18:40:41
169.   fanerman
oh boo
2008-02-03 18:41:17
170.   D4P
I just broke Rule 13.
2008-02-03 18:41:44
171.   Raf
your turn, Jints
2008-02-03 18:42:39
172.   Bob Timmermann
Brady may be named the MVP by default. There's really nobody on the Patriots who has done a lot.
2008-02-03 18:43:07
173.   Bob Timmermann
Welker does have 11 catches, but they weren't for TDs.
2008-02-03 18:45:42
174.   D4P
Patriots MVP: Camera guy
2008-02-03 18:46:29
175.   Daniel Zappala
Eli Manning may be named MVP.
2008-02-03 18:46:49
176.   D4P
I can only hope that someday New England's accomplishments are as tarnished as Barry's.
2008-02-03 18:51:39
177.   Raf
2008-02-03 18:51:49
178.   Daniel Zappala
That was pretty amazing.
2008-02-03 18:51:59
179.   D4P
What a catch!
2008-02-03 18:52:01
180.   Bob Timmermann
I have a hard time believing that play just transpired.
2008-02-03 18:52:24
181.   fanerman
Nice catch.
2008-02-03 18:52:28
182.   D4P
Not to mention MVP Manning's sack avoidance.
2008-02-03 18:53:27
183.   Daniel Zappala
Manning can be MVP if he can survive.
2008-02-03 18:54:52
184.   Bob Timmermann
It seems that the MVP will be the winning QB although Brady really didn't play all that well.

At least by his normal standards.

2008-02-03 18:56:18
185.   fanerman
2008-02-03 18:56:19
186.   Raf
2008-02-03 18:56:32
187.   Daniel Zappala
Wow. How did he get wide open?
2008-02-03 18:56:44
188.   D4P
I'm D4P, and I approve of that touchdown.
2008-02-03 18:57:03
189.   Bob Timmermann
Burress was as open as John Taylor.
2008-02-03 18:57:08
190.   Daniel Zappala
I've got a daughter going for the Giants, a son going for the Patriots, and another son who is going for whoever is in the lead.
2008-02-03 18:57:54
191.   Bob Timmermann
I like the son who blows with the wind. Let me just say. If the voters can blow with the wind, I too will show them that I can blow.
2008-02-03 18:58:04
192.   SoSG Orel
Holy Rule 1 Violation!
2008-02-03 18:58:20
193.   Daniel Zappala
D4P I know you dislike the Patriots, but I'm surprised you're willing to stomach two Mannings winning Super Bowls back-to-back.
2008-02-03 18:59:03
194.   bhsportsguy
Mark this moment, the only time in recent sports history that everyone was rooting for a NY team*

* They play in Jersey but you know what I mean.

2008-02-03 18:59:16
195.   Bob Timmermann
This will be just the ninth drive for the Patriots. The Giants did about all they could do. If they lose, the Patriots earned it.
2008-02-03 18:59:19
196.   Ember Nickel
"...Some people believe the universe would be replaced by something even more bizarre. Others believe this has already happened."
2008-02-03 18:59:41
197.   Daniel Zappala
191 Those voters aren't blowing with the wind. They're caught up in an Obama maelstrom.
2008-02-03 19:00:05
198.   bhsportsguy
Time to pull out those tapes Bill.
2008-02-03 19:00:46
199.   fanerman
What a hit.
2008-02-03 19:00:59
200.   Daniel Zappala
When was the last time Brady got hit so much?
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2008-02-03 19:01:16
201.   Bob Timmermann
Making the Giants sentimental favorites is akin to the way Digger Phelps made Danny Ainge a heroic figure.
2008-02-03 19:01:43
202.   D4P
D4P I know you dislike the Patriots, but I'm surprised you're willing to stomach two Mannings winning Super Bowls back-to-back

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

2008-02-03 19:02:09
203.   D4P
See 202
2008-02-03 19:02:16
204.   Daniel Zappala
He was open but boy that was a nice defensive play.

My Patriots son says it's impossible now. My other son is feeling guilty for switching teams several times.

2008-02-03 19:02:42
205.   bhsportsguy
201 Digger was very respectful yesterday and according to eyewitnesses, had a nice visit with Coach Wooden.
2008-02-03 19:03:09
206.   D4P
When was the last time Brady got hit so much?

Johnny Unitas got hit more in the huddle than Brady gets hit in an entire season.

2008-02-03 19:03:19
207.   Bob Timmermann
In a battle between BYU and Notre Dame, I will side with the Good Professor's team 101 out of 100 times.
2008-02-03 19:03:35
208.   Daniel Zappala
Thank goodness I wasn't a BYU fan when Ainge played there, because I would have been clobbered for being a traitor.
2008-02-03 19:03:41
209.   fanerman
2008-02-03 19:03:50
210.   D4P
This victory is for all the teams the Patriots have Rule 1 Violationed over the past 6 years with their cheating.

This feels very good.

2008-02-03 19:04:11
211.   Bob Timmermann
Digger's sins are unpardonable by me.
2008-02-03 19:04:14
212.   Icaros
I feel like there should be Ewoks dancing and playing a song.
2008-02-03 19:04:31
213.   SoSG Orel
Finally a game that lived up to the hype.
2008-02-03 19:04:36
214.   Daniel Zappala
207 There comes a time when evil must be defeated. I appreciate your support.
2008-02-03 19:05:08
215.   Bob Timmermann
I hate Digger more than D4P hates the Patriots.
2008-02-03 19:05:17
216.   Gen3Blue
Hey, I'm a supposed Patriots fan, and I'm rooting for Eli. DP4 won't have to make any argument, except the Giants win!!
2008-02-03 19:05:41
217.   Daniel Zappala
How about Giants defense for MVP?
2008-02-03 19:05:45
218.   bhsportsguy
212 And is someone burning Darth Vader's body?

Thanks, that was a nice chuckle.

2008-02-03 19:06:13
219.   fanerman
204 What about your other sons and daughters?
2008-02-03 19:06:14
220.   Bob Timmermann
Eli Manning will be the MVP or else there's going to be some explaining to do.
2008-02-03 19:06:35
221.   Daniel Zappala
Bob, this is for you, to keep track of your dead-to-me list:

2008-02-03 19:07:57
222.   bhsportsguy
Sonny Mcleans just went very quiet.

Well there is always the Celtics.

What a week for New York sports teams, the Mets get Santana, the Knicks actually find someone they can beat and the Giants win the Super Bowl.

2008-02-03 19:08:18
223.   Icaros

Pretend all the streamers and tickertape raining down on the field right now are Death Star ashes.

2008-02-03 19:08:55
224.   bhsportsguy
Oh, I am sure someone will have a picture of Mercury Morris and Don Shula opening a bottle of champagne.
2008-02-03 19:10:28
225.   bhsportsguy
223 I always pictured myself as Wedge in the Star Wars version of my life.

But some might see me as Jabba the Hutt's witless spokesman.

2008-02-03 19:11:09
226.   Daniel Zappala
Funny, the Giants were the trendy pick this week, but Joe Buck says no one gave them a chance.
2008-02-03 19:11:52
227.   Daniel Zappala
219 Steadfastly independent.
2008-02-03 19:12:18
228.   Bob Timmermann
Doug Williams looks like he's going to carry out an execution.
2008-02-03 19:12:38
229.   Gen3Blue
No, I have to say the winners here are the Giants and Eli! The Dolphins didn't make it through as long a season. The Giants>the Dolphins.
2008-02-03 19:14:37
230.   Yu-Hsing Chen
HOLY SHIT I can't belive my eyes
2008-02-03 19:15:11
231.   bhsportsguy
226 Well, its always trendy to pick a big underdog.

Joe missed out on pulling out a phrase from his dad, "I don't believe what I just saw."

I guess Eli's passion bucket is full.

2008-02-03 19:17:36
232.   das411
So I guess this proves once and for all that the Super Bowl's aren't all rigged for the Pats?
2008-02-03 19:17:44
233.   Daniel Zappala
What's Georgia Frontiere doing there on the field?
2008-02-03 19:18:55
234.   Raf
No shout out for the Yale Bowl? Damn...
2008-02-03 19:20:50
235.   bhsportsguy
233 That's mean.

By next Saturday, there will be a commercial with Peyton and Eli.

2008-02-03 19:23:15
236.   Bob Timmermann
I think the Yale Bowl may have been the last NFL stadium that didn't have lights.
2008-02-03 19:28:32
237.   bhsportsguy
Mercury Morris is being interviewed on ESPN, he gives props to the Giants.
2008-02-03 19:32:12
238.   Bob Timmermann
I don't think there is much difference between a sad Bill Belichick and a happy Bill Belichick.
2008-02-03 19:34:23
239.   Icaros
Belichick is the Care Bear with the storm cloud on his belly.
2008-02-03 19:42:55
240.   bhsportsguy
Tell Chris Berman that he can stop referring to them as the New York football Giants.

Those other Giants moved to San Francisco 50 years ago.

2008-02-03 19:50:16
241.   Bob Timmermann
New York Football Giants is the legal name of the team and that's the trademark they use.
2008-02-03 19:50:47
242.   DXMachina
So the sound of ultimate suffering I heard a little while ago here in New England wasn't the sound of true love lost, but just a bunch of unhappy Pats fans? Sweet!
2008-02-03 19:53:55
243.   bhsportsguy
241 Well that other New York Giant team was around for at least 20 years before they started.
2008-02-03 19:59:10
244.   das411
So does that kick off the next 86 year stretch of New York superiority over New England?


2008-02-03 20:09:12
245.   DXMachina
244 Only if the Knicks can coax Willis Reed out of retirement.
2008-02-03 20:12:48
246.   ToyCannon
That may have been the best Super Bowl ending I've ever seen. Started out rooting for the Pat's switched to the Giants based on my pool. With the Pat's marching I needed a Pat's touchdown followed by a Giant touchdown to end the game so that a good friend who really needs the 1000 bucks could win. I'm still it shocked it worked out that way and that play by Eli and catch by whoever was the single greatest play I've ever seen in the Super Bowl.
I am on such a high right now and it may be the only time I've ever rooted for a NY Giant touchdown in my lifetime.
2008-02-03 20:13:20
247.   Knuckles
241 thanks bob, you wanna remind the teacher she forgot to assign us homework as well?
2008-02-03 20:21:00
248.   Bob Timmermann
That was my specialty in school!
2008-02-03 20:29:03
249.   Marty
Man, I wih I had put money on the Elis.
2008-02-03 22:23:31
250.   Eric Stephen
I really liked the halftime show. Good Petty songs all around!
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2008-02-04 11:21:47
251.   Daniel Zappala
By my standards, the best Super Bowl ending is still London Fletcher making the touchdown-saving tackle against the Titans on the 2 yard line with time running out.

But that catch in yesterday's game was the best I've seen in a Super Bowl.

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