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2008-03-23 04:00
by Bob Timmermann

It's Easter Sunday. At least if you're in a Western Christian religion. Did you know this is the earliest Easter has fallen on in your lifetime? Unless you were born before March 23, 1913 that is. If you are that old and reading this blog, good for you!

Easter won't be on March 23 again until 2160. And if we're still alive then, you can all come over to my place to watch the NCAA Tournament. Bring your own Soylent Green. And some dip.

The gory details about the debate to settle the date for Easter can be found here. (It involves St. Polycarp, often described as the patron saint of "The Far Side.") And there is an easy to use formula here.

Now that I've whetted your appetite with those exciting links, here's what's on tap for Sunday, all times PT.

9:10 am - #13 Siena vs #12 Villanova in Tampa (Midwest) - The Saints and the Wildcats get the spotlight to themselves early in the morning. Siena is a Franciscan school and Villanova is an Augustinian school. The winner gets Kansas.

11:15 am - #7 Miami (FL) vs #2 Texas in North Little Rock (South) - Longhorns looking for revenge for 1991 Cotton Bowl humiliation. The winner faces Stanford.

11:30 am - #7 Butler vs #2 Tennessee in Birmingham (East) - The Bulldogs are the last hope for the state of Indiana. Tennessee is not the last hope for the Volunteer State. The winner faces the other winner from Birmingham.

about 11:40 am - #13 San Diego vs #12 Western Kentucky in Tampa (West) - These two teams have actually played each other twice before. The Hilltoppers have the 15th most wins in NCAA history. San Diego is one of those schools you don't think is Catholic, but it is. The winner faces UCLA.

11:50 am - #10 Davidson vs #2 Georgetown in Raleigh (Midwest) - The Wildcats put the nation's longest winning streak up against a team that went to the Final Four last year. Billy Packer will mention the fact that Lefty Driesell used to coach Davidson about 15 times. Georgetown is a Jesuit school and also the only one of the 16 schools playing today that I've visited. The winner faces Wisconsin.

about 1:45 pm - #8 Mississippi State vs #1 Memphis in North Little Rock (South) - Will Mississippi State be the last Bulldog team to fall? Or will Memphis be the last Tiger team? The winner plays Michigan State.

about 2:00 pm - #6 Oklahoma vs #3 Louisville in Birmingham (East) - There is a Louisville High in Los Angeles which is a Catholic school. The University of Louisville is not a Catholic school. But just be prepared in case the school switches allegiances. The winner plays the winner of the other game that I couldn't say who the winner would play after they won.

about 2:20 pm - #9 Arkansas vs #1 North Carolina in Raleigh (East) - Rematch from the 1995 Final Four. Billy Packer will call Roy Williams "Roy" most of the game, but John Pelphrey will never be called "John." The winner plays Washington State.

There is a three-way tie for first in the Griddle's bracket's contest. Four entries are one point behind. Ham Fighter Nation has the highest number of possible points left.

Comments (144)
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2008-03-23 06:42:38
1.   Sam DC
Reading the Times, I'm a little surprised that Kevin Love calls Coach Howland "Ben."
2008-03-23 07:47:26
2.   Bob Timmermann
My Easter Mass involved walking up for Communion next to Bill Plaschke and listening to the priest make a reference to Nikolai Bukharin during the sermon.
2008-03-23 08:19:11
3.   bhsportsguy
I will be out for the day so you won't see any enlightening posts by me.

2 Coach Howland has referred to the almighty twice in the last 3 weeks, after Westbrook's free throw against Stanford and on Collison's lay up that gave the Bruins their final go-ahead basket.

Just find that interesting considering you always knew that Coach Wooden was a religous man but that is a side that Coach Howland has kept to himself until recently.

2008-03-23 08:30:23
4.   Bob Timmermann
If a Siena fan stops by, please say hello!
2008-03-23 09:05:11
5.   Bob Timmermann
Again, you can see the red light on the backboard before Westbrook's final slam is released.
2008-03-23 09:07:42
6.   Sam DC
I just saw that replay and independently felt like the shot was late (I hadn't known there was controversy, as I managed to fall asleep by halftime last night).

Meanwhile, does that Nationwide commercial with the painters/windowwashers and the red car gtetting smashed up show one of the painters/windowashers comically falling to his death at the end?

2008-03-23 09:11:06
7.   Bob Timmermann
Sam's entry is the only one among the top 20 that has Villanova going to the Sweet Sixteen.
2008-03-23 09:12:47
8.   Sam DC
Too many games at the Palestra not to be a Big Five guy.

If only St. Joe's had come through for me . . .

2008-03-23 09:13:42
9.   Bob Timmermann
Don't the floorboards at the Palestra run crosswise along the floor instead of lengthwise?
2008-03-23 09:17:33
10.   Daniel Zappala
Easter will be on my birthday in the year 2285. I expect you all to come visit me, wherever you may be.
2008-03-23 09:20:55
11.   Daniel Zappala
Re: the Siena/Villanova game, I went to a Servite school.
2008-03-23 09:22:50
12.   Bob Timmermann
You didn't have to switch to the LDS just to avoid being in the same religion as Bill Plaschke and I.
2008-03-23 09:23:32
13.   Sam DC
9 I'm trying to think . . . and it was college after all with the attendant reasons I might not really remember so well . . . but I don't get that picture in my mind. I seem them running up and down the floor, but I'll admit, to moderate my shame, I'm not sure.
2008-03-23 09:26:18
14.   Bob Timmermann
The Palestra appears to have a floor like everybody else now.

I think Maples Pavilion used to have floorboards that run the other way. Back when it was all bouncy.

2008-03-23 09:28:08
15.   Daniel Zappala
12 Getting to wave palm fronds for the procession that leads into mass on Palm Friday wasn't enough to keep me there.
2008-03-23 09:28:32
16.   Daniel Zappala
They took away the bouncy floor? That was our home court advantage!
2008-03-23 09:29:37
17.   Bob Timmermann
And I was right about Maples Pavilion! Here's a photo of the old court.

2008-03-23 09:32:14
18.   Bob Timmermann
But think of the guilt! The guilt! How can you pass it up?

And let's compare the number of Catholic schools left in the NCAA tournament compared to LDS schools?

There will be at least two and possibly four Catholic schools in the Sweet Sixteen! In fact, we may have to call it the Benedict XVI.

2008-03-23 09:48:20
19.   Bob Timmermann
Is this likely the largest TV audience ever for a Siena basketball game? Not that I expect this game to be garnering huge ratings.
2008-03-23 10:06:49
20.   Penarol1916
18. I don't know, the people that I know who went to Notre Dame always claim that Georgetown is not really Catholic.
2008-03-23 10:17:16
21.   trainwreck
Congrats, on having the control to not trip Plaschke.
2008-03-23 10:35:16
22.   Bob Timmermann
Tackling people in church while going to receive Communion is frowned upon.

The priest also came from a country that started with an I. But it wasn't Ireland or Italy.

2008-03-23 10:54:24
23.   Greg Brock
Last time I attended church I did not walk up to receive communion. The 400 year old woman next to me tried to push me up there. Really.

She really wanted me to take communion.

2008-03-23 10:56:21
24.   trainwreck
It's always weird to go to church and everyone looks at you as you and a bunch of little children are the only ones not receiving communion.
2008-03-23 10:57:20
25.   Greg Brock
Chelsea beats Arsenal on two goals by Drogba.
2008-03-23 10:59:33
26.   Bob Timmermann
At most Catholic churches today, you can walk up to where Communion is being given out and then have your arms crossed when you get to the front of the line and the priest or other person giving out Communion will give you a blessing, which is essentially a pat on the head.

You may not like that either.

Or you can go to one of those upstart Protestant churches and they don't really care if you're a member.

Excuse, I've got to go work on my 96 theses. I'll show that Luther guy! I'll go one better.

2008-03-23 11:01:22
27.   trainwreck
How did Siena beat Vanderbilt? They look terrible.
2008-03-23 11:02:13
28.   Bob Timmermann
Siena shot extremely well against Vanderbilt.
2008-03-23 11:02:37
29.   Greg Brock
It's the church in which I was baptized and served as a choir member. I've taken communion there many a time.

It's Episcopalian. The netherworld between Catholicism and Protestantism.

2008-03-23 11:03:05
30.   Daniel Zappala
18 The Benedict XVI. That's hilarious! There are only so many Catholic schools left in the tourney because (a) everyone knows they have a huge recruiting advantage because of all the Catholics in the country, (b) they bribe their recruits with indulgences, (c) questionable ingredients in the incense.
2008-03-23 11:05:04
31.   Daniel Zappala
21 Did you actually attend mass with Plaschke today? That wasn't a joke?
2008-03-23 11:08:14
32.   Greg Brock
I cannot countenance Norman Greenbaum's magnum opus being used in a Tiger Woods commercial.
2008-03-23 11:08:19
33.   Bob Timmermann
Ahh, a doubting Daniel. You will not believe that I walked with Plaschke unless you can stick your hand in the wound in his side and put your fingers in the holes in his hands?

Are you and your family barricaded in your house for fear of reprisal from the Pharisees?

2008-03-23 11:09:21
34.   Bob Timmermann
I forgot that Greg Brock was Catholic Lite and takes his religious cues from Helen Mirren.
2008-03-23 11:11:42
35.   Greg Brock
Actually, since a third of the laity bolted the diocese over the gay priest flap, I'm not really sure what the church is anymore.
2008-03-23 11:14:07
36.   Greg Brock
And our Priest in Charge is a woman.
2008-03-23 11:14:16
37.   Bob Timmermann
There is a conservative Episcopalian church right next to my home. In Pasadena, there's All Saints Episcopal Church.

The latter pretty much lets it all hang out.

2008-03-23 11:16:32
38.   Greg Brock
37 The conservative church is most likely now a member of the African Anglican diocese, and not affiliated with the Southern California riff raff.
2008-03-23 11:17:39
39.   Daniel Zappala
30 I do have a brother named Thomas. But I want photographic evidence.
2008-03-23 11:19:15
40.   Linkmeister
35 "I'm not really sure what the church is anymore."

True to its teachings?

2008-03-23 11:19:19
41.   Bob Timmermann
I'd go inside and find out, but since I don't have any tweed jackets, I stay out.

The Episcopal church had a big sign out for Ash Wednesday saying that there would be "Imposition of Ashes." Catholics just distribute them. We don't want to impose on anyone.

2008-03-23 11:20:43
42.   Bob Timmermann
I have a brother named Thomas too. You know, the name means "twin."
2008-03-23 11:20:50
43.   Greg Brock
40 I just meant in terms of how it's organized. I hold no position on anything controversial.
2008-03-23 11:22:40
44.   Linkmeister
43 Ah.

How come there are no late games today as there were yesterday? CBS, what's wrong? "60 Minutes" takes precedence?

2008-03-23 11:23:08
45.   Greg Brock
41 The church is well know for its historical reluctance to impose anything on anyone.
2008-03-23 11:24:28
46.   Bob Timmermann
CBS wants the last games to go in to prime time on the East Coast. And that starts one hour earlier on Sunday.

Which must not be a lot of fun for people in the 49th or 50th states.

2008-03-23 11:25:34
47.   Bob Timmermann
Of course not, we're a humble people who would never think of interfering in anyone's lives.

You can barely tell the difference between a Catholic and a Quaker.

2008-03-23 11:26:36
48.   Bob Timmermann
I find it very hard to root for Miami in any sport.
2008-03-23 11:27:18
49.   Bob Timmermann
Villanova's win moves Sam DC up from 14th to a 4th place tie.
2008-03-23 11:32:03
50.   Greg Brock
Just think, Bob. As a German Catholic, some of your ancestors might well have been children crusaders.

Didn't work out so well, but still, it's the thought that counts.

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2008-03-23 11:33:48
51.   Bob Timmermann
The Timmermanns have a long and storied history of avoiding military service. I'm sure it goes back well before the Crusades.

The family motto is "Can't somebody else do that?"

2008-03-23 11:36:52
52.   Greg Brock
I always dreamed of leading an army of children into the Holy Land.

Then I remember that I can't even get them to do their homework.

2008-03-23 11:37:12
53.   Andrew Shimmin
10- You'll need an inside man to leave the pearly gates unlatched if you want me to drop in.

Brock too, it sounds like. Fighting an old woman over communion doesn't sound like something a person who was headed in the right direction would do.

2008-03-23 11:38:38
54.   Linkmeister
46 Well, because of this weird schedule (UCLA-A&M started at 3:40pm here yesterday; no game is later than 11:15 today) I can devote my afternoon to folding socks with the womens' tournament on in the background.
2008-03-23 11:39:44
55.   Greg Brock
Butler's coach is twelve years old.
2008-03-23 11:49:45
56.   Bob Timmermann
CBS is desperately trying to find a close game to show people.

I would assume that those of us out in Southern California will get the Toreros vs Hilltoppers.

2008-03-23 11:55:12
57.   Greg Brock
At least I get my daily Billy Packer fix.
2008-03-23 12:01:37
58.   Bob Timmermann
UCLA lost to USD the last time they faced each other. And that was at Pauley.

UCLA has never played WKU.

2008-03-23 12:13:09
59.   Andrew Shimmin
58- Was that the year they lost to the EA Sports video game team?
2008-03-23 12:15:44
60.   Greg Brock
Of all the damage done by Steve Lavin, losing to Athletes in Action and EA sports trails only one thing...Wearing black uniforms.

Should have been fired for that alone.

2008-03-23 12:26:02
61.   Linkmeister
Playing West Regional games in Tampa Bay/St Pete

Reminds of me of the Braves in the NL West.

2008-03-23 12:28:28
62.   Bob Timmermann
Either you play the first and second round games closer to where the schools are located or you do things like have a bunch of schools from the East Coast having to fly out to Anaheim.

The year when Georgetown, Maryland, and one other school from the DC area (GW?) had to go to Boise made the NCAA rethink the whole idea.

2008-03-23 12:42:09
63.   Greg Brock
Nobody should ever have to go to Boise.
2008-03-23 12:43:44
64.   ToyCannon
Looks like I'm destined for last place leaving me free to root for UCLA.

Evidently Bobby Knight does not know more about basketball in his pinky then the rest of you combined.

How come the female cab driver in the Verizon baby is due commercial is wearing a hard hat? Couldn't Larry Bowa lend her a more attractive helmet?

I'm guessing that was Westbrooks worst game since he started playing competitive basketball.

Explain to me again how Bayless is a better pro prospect then Kevin Love?

2008-03-23 12:44:53
65.   underdog
61 Or like Stanford/Palo Alto being part of this year's Greensboro regional in the women's tourney? Good for Cal, though. Alas, for UCSB they were put in the Norfolk part of that section, where all the other teams are within a 3-4 hrs drive of the arena.
2008-03-23 12:46:58
66.   Bob Timmermann
The first cab driver isn't really a cab driver, she's a Verizon engineer.
2008-03-23 12:47:55
67.   underdog
Wouldn't a bullfighter normally be able to defeat a hilltopper? Or are hilltoppers usually well-armed? (Since they're part of a fox hunt.)
2008-03-23 12:50:22
68.   Bob Timmermann
Western Kentucky's original nickname was the Pedagogues.

Their logo is a red towel.

2008-03-23 12:51:27
69.   underdog
I guess Hilltopper is an improvement, then.

They also could've been the alternative fox hunting term - "gaters" - which would have just looked like a typo.

2008-03-23 12:51:36
70.   Linkmeister
Hilltoppers could equally be moonshiners, couldn't they?
2008-03-23 12:54:21
71.   Greg Brock
68 The mascot is actually a androgynous blob.
2008-03-23 12:55:39
72.   Bob Timmermann
From the WKU website:

The evolution of the nickname "Hilltoppers" is obvious to those who have seen the Western Kentucky campus.

The operations of Western Kentucky State Normal School were moved from its forerunner, Southern Normal School, to a commanding hill on the southwestern portion of Bowling Green on February 4, 1911. The move was completed as the entire student body marched to the new site, carrying various articles of school equipment.

USD is on top of a hill also.

2008-03-23 12:55:57
73.   Greg Brock
An androgynous blob. I went with unisex, but changed it. We would also accept non-gendered.
2008-03-23 12:56:20
74.   Bob Timmermann
The androgynous blob always waves a red towel.
2008-03-23 12:57:01
75.   Greg Brock
74 Of course he does.
2008-03-23 12:58:03
76.   Bob Timmermann
The blob is likely headed to Phoenix. We will send someone to find out what sex it is.
2008-03-23 13:07:59
77.   underdog

We're Western Kentucky, we're the Fightin' Red Blobs on a Hill?


2008-03-23 13:11:26
78.   Greg Brock
Not everybody can be Banana Slugs and Tarheels, underdog.
2008-03-23 13:15:22
79.   Bob Timmermann
Western Kentucky went to the Final Four in 1971, but the NCAA doesn't count it because they used an ineligible player. Villanova went to the Final Four that year and lost in the championship game, but that was vacated too.

Long Beach State had its appearance vacated too, but that was back when Jerry Tarkanian coached there.

2008-03-23 13:18:53
80.   underdog
78 True. And it sure beats yet another Wildcat or Tiger. Or Golden Flash.

Hey, here's a fun question for y'all - do you know what a Hokie is?

It's not pretty.

2008-03-23 13:20:42
81.   Bob Timmermann
We can ask Ken Noe over at DT.
2008-03-23 13:22:29
82.   underdog
Actually, there seems to be some disagreement about what a hokie is.

I thought it was a castrated turkey, but Va. Tech will tell you otherwise. Either way, it's got a nice sound to it.

I also fear the Battling Bishops of Ohio Wesleyan.

2008-03-23 13:24:30
83.   Greg Brock
It would be very difficult to castrate a bird, as their bits are internal.
2008-03-23 13:25:08
84.   Bob Timmermann
I've known a Battling Bishop. Branch Rickey went to Ohio Wesleyan as well.
2008-03-23 13:29:26
85.   Bob Timmermann
If you couldn't castrate birds, how do we get capons?
2008-03-23 13:29:58
86.   Bob Timmermann
Eric Enders resumes breathing.
2008-03-23 13:33:27
87.   Bob Timmermann
North Carolina is now the last ACC team left. I hope Billy Packer can deal with that.
2008-03-23 13:34:55
88.   underdog
Billy Packer's such a hokie.
2008-03-23 13:42:30
89.   Eric Enders
Not funny, Longhorns. I'm not in the mood for jokes today.

Butler and Davidson within striking distance!

2008-03-23 13:43:36
90.   Eric Enders
Butler blowing it now. Make your layups, small white dudes.
2008-03-23 13:43:51
91.   Bob Timmermann
How did that Butler guy miss that layup?
2008-03-23 13:45:40
92.   underdog
I think Bob may have jinxed the Red Blobs. That one's far from over.
2008-03-23 13:47:00
93.   underdog
The Butler Didits would be a good nickname. If you like awful puns.

Exciting game.

2008-03-23 13:48:25
94.   Greg Brock
85 I thought it was called something else. Bird castration it is!
2008-03-23 13:48:26
95.   Eric Enders
All four concurrent games have followed the same pattern. Favored team gets out to large lead, looks like it's going to be a blowout, and then in the last four minutes the underdog mounts a serious rally, closes it to a one-possession game, only to ultimately fall short.

That last thing of course just being speculation on my part.

2008-03-23 13:51:08
96.   underdog
I can't remember the last time I mounted a serious rally, but I'll take your word for it.
2008-03-23 13:51:13
97.   Greg Brock
You cannot stop the Davidson Mighty Platinum Phoenix.
2008-03-23 13:53:13
98.   Bob Timmermann
Timmermann's Law of Overtimes could come into play if Tennessee scores.
2008-03-23 13:57:57
99.   Bob Timmermann
I thought it was goaltending, but I never can understand how the officials can decide that.
2008-03-23 13:59:18
100.   Bob Timmermann
The Law is now in effect!
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2008-03-23 14:08:40
101.   Bob Timmermann
Ocelotsideshow sits atop the leaderboard after Davidson's win.
2008-03-23 14:08:50
102.   Greg Brock
Man, another tough one for the SOJ.
2008-03-23 14:10:06
103.   Greg Brock
Or is it the SJ? Or the SoJ? Help me out, Bob.
2008-03-23 14:10:26
104.   Sam DC
I'm glad I will be out of the office next week as there will be some very cranky folks around.

I actually didn't have a lot of confidence Georgetown, but I picked them to go pretty far just so when they lost I could commiserate.

2008-03-23 14:12:38
105.   Bob Timmermann
Usually the members are styled Rev. Francis Xavier O'Malley, S.J.
2008-03-23 14:15:49
106.   Greg Brock
This one has to hurt. Not as much as being expelled from South America, but still. Just a tick below that.
2008-03-23 14:16:55
107.   Bob Timmermann
And only two Catholic schools make it to the Sweet Sixteen: Xavier and Villanova. The last Catholic school to win a championship was Villanova in 1985. Seton Hall lost in overtime in 1989.
2008-03-23 14:17:48
108.   Bob Timmermann
The Jesuits still have Xavier to pull for.
2008-03-23 14:17:57
109.   underdog
How are my Jewish schools doing today? Still undefeated, I'm betting. Take that, Catholic schools!
2008-03-23 14:21:11
110.   Greg Brock
109 The sons of David beat the Catholics!
2008-03-23 14:22:45
111.   Greg Brock
I'll add that the Episcopal colleges are undefeated.
2008-03-23 14:26:24
112.   Bob Timmermann
Trainwreck is checking what it costs to go to Starkville, Mississippi.
2008-03-23 14:28:55
113.   underdog
110 Sons of David notwithstanding, they're a Presbyterian school.
2008-03-23 14:31:49
114.   Greg Brock
So in Daniel's system, do all Scots have to play basketball at Davidson?
2008-03-23 14:36:16
115.   Bob Timmermann
Since Davidson is Presbyterian, I guess that their fate was predestined.
2008-03-23 14:37:27
116.   ToyCannon
Curry is fun to watch, glad I get to see the 14 year old play another game.
2008-03-23 14:38:18
117.   Bob Timmermann
Jim Spanarkel says "basketball play" like announcers for another sport will say "he made a great golf shot there!"
2008-03-23 14:40:14
118.   Bob Timmermann
Actually, Davidson, like The Griddle, is "nominally nondenominational."
2008-03-23 14:40:27
119.   Greg Brock
Billy Packer and UNC. This is a love affair if ever there was one.
2008-03-23 14:53:39
120.   Greg Brock
I'm not going to take a stand on climate change until The Griddle releases a position paper.

You can't be nominally non-everything, Bob. Some of us need guidance.

2008-03-23 14:53:42
121.   Bob Timmermann
CBS is going to show us the whole UNC-Arkansas game I feel because it must be important. It's got Nantz and Packer.

Not that we might want to see closer matchups.

2008-03-23 15:09:55
122.   underdog
121 Well the Louisville-OK game doesn't look to be one of those close games...
2008-03-23 15:15:48
123.   Greg Brock
Vern Lundquist can butcher names at an Enbergian pace.
2008-03-23 15:16:10
124.   Bob Timmermann
I believe the Basketball Gods are telling me to take a nap.
2008-03-23 15:30:17
125.   Indiana Jon
I just wanted to mention one more time that although Butler went down today in overtime, they should have been higher than a 7 seed. I think they proved that. I wonder how many years they will have to prove it. The good news is, they lost to Tennessee. I'm still alive!
2008-03-23 15:31:12
126.   Daniel Zappala
53 That's exactly what I had in mind. ;-)
2008-03-23 15:36:48
127.   Vishal
this memphis-miss. state game is pretty entertaining. these underdogs have some fight in 'em.
2008-03-23 15:39:13
128.   Greg Brock
If this game is close at the end, Memphis and their atrocious FT shooting will lose.

I look forward to it.

2008-03-23 15:41:27
129.   Vishal
128 ditto.
2008-03-23 15:48:47
130.   Bob Timmermann
So is Nike selling those parachute thingees to everybody now?
2008-03-23 15:52:26
131.   Bob Timmermann
This would be more if trainwreck were here with his intense John Calipari hatred.
2008-03-23 15:53:27
132.   Bob Timmermann
More fun, that is.
2008-03-23 16:04:05
133.   Greg Brock
Keep fouling Dorsey!
2008-03-23 16:04:12
134.   Vishal
let's go, hack-a-tiger
2008-03-23 16:12:12
135.   Vishal
tsk, tsk.
2008-03-23 16:18:25
136.   Bob Timmermann
Finally, it's in print!

2008-03-23 16:20:03
137.   Indiana Jon
2008-03-23 16:21:07
138.   Bob Timmermann
Playing the role of trainwreck, "But I thought it was only UCLA that won close games that they didn't deserve.."

He would have wanted it that way.

2008-03-23 16:23:28
139.   Greg Brock
They should have started fouling with ten minutes remaining.
2008-03-23 16:23:49
140.   Bob Timmermann
We have a three-way tie for first and that should hold up with the last two games.
2008-03-23 16:42:44
141.   Bob Timmermann
Sweet 16 by conference:

Big East - 3
Pac-10 - 3
Big Ten - 2
Big XII - 2
ACC - 1
Sun Belt - 1
Atlantic 10 - 1
Southern - 1
C-USA - 1
SEC - 1

2008-03-23 17:24:30
142.   Linkmeister
"ACC - 1"

Packer and Vitale are both gnashing their respective teeth.

2008-03-23 17:25:52
143.   Daniel Zappala
I think they're gnashing each other's teeth too.
2008-03-23 19:40:45
144.   underdog
Curse you ESPN2 - your "bonus coverage" of the women's games tonight stink. I don't want to see all of the Oral Roberts-Tennessee game and 5 minutes of the UCSB-Va. game. Fooey on your Tim Brando!

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